UFOs?

Posted on May 12, 2004 by sheila

Independence Day? Contact? Signs? What do we think about this?

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19 Responses to UFOs?

  1. BSTommy says:
    May 12, 2004 at 8:55 am

    They were all over this last night on Coast to Coast.

    I think mainly it’s interesting because it’s provoked official government response from Mexico’s Defense Secretary. That doesn’t happen much in the northern hemisphere, when it comes to this type of thing.

    One theory, crackpot or no, was that our military has been toying with devices that can, in some environments, cloak solid objects from sight by messing with the light wavelength. The science was shaky, and I had to turn the radio down during this explanation. Stupid work.

    Another was the it’s aliens who are able to traverse interstellar distances by transforming mass into light and heat energy, which might explain why they showed up on infrared but not completely visually.

  2. red says:
    May 12, 2004 at 8:59 am

    This is the problem with not having television. I get so behind. (Meaning, 10 hours behind. Which is a lifetime.)

    Wow.

    Not to be a total freak, but in Signs the first sighting of these unidentified flying objects appeared in Mexico. I know, I’m a goofball.

  3. BSTommy says:
    May 12, 2004 at 9:08 am

    Well, I’m using the crackpot paranoic’s show as my main source of news, lately, so I’m not doing much better. This is the one current event topic I’m conversant in.

  4. matt says:
    May 12, 2004 at 10:07 am

    Mexico is the numero uno in UFO reporting. Ever watch their tv channel here? I wouldn’t put too much merit into it. Why? They want news!

    When was the last time you read about Mexico in the news?:)

  5. Emily says:
    May 12, 2004 at 10:26 am

    E.T.! We knew you’d come back!

  6. Steve the Llamabutcher says:
    May 12, 2004 at 10:49 am

    Fab! Donald Rumsfeld is a villain in many of the UFO conspiracy circles as they claim he had a role in Project Blue Book etc., and tried to put the kaibosh on a whole bunch of stuff when he was SECDEF back in the 1970s…….

    Or maybe it’s Andy Kaufman, getting ready for his grand return.

  7. The Aceman says:
    May 12, 2004 at 11:09 am

    Not wanting to rain on anyone’s parade (and I’m a bit of a UFO tracker, myself), the configuration of the lights looks like a commercial airliner. Would an airliner show up on radar? Yup. So either the Mexican Air Force’s radar equipment was screwing up and they don’t want to admit it (let’s face it, would you? Everyone knows, it’s invasion time!), or its a plane with the same light configuration as a commercial airliner, with stealth capacities. Sounds like a modified Blackbird to me. Now the question is why is the US Dept of Defense’s Special Tactical Unit (the only folks I know who have had Blackbirds) buzzing Mexico?

  8. Outlaw3 says:
    May 12, 2004 at 12:02 pm

    It looks like a Blackbird? The SR71? That thing doesn’t go slow enough to stay anywhere near whatever the Mexican Air Force flies! If you mean a secret airplane, well maybe. But they tend to have lots of IR/thermal/radar protection. Anyone test the pilots for drugs yet? Maybe they found a group of unmanned drones from the INS/Border Patrol looking for illegals?

  9. The Aceman says:
    May 12, 2004 at 12:25 pm

    SR71 is an old model. They have about three different ones now, one of which is designed as a spy plane (like the old U2) which can fly subsonic for pictures, then hit supersonic speeds to escape. Like all Blackbirds, it’s equipped with stealth capacity (hell, would YOU want to caught spying on your neighbor?).

  10. CW says:
    May 12, 2004 at 2:17 pm

    No more SR-71s – they’re all in museums now. When we did have SR-71s, they flew so high and so fast you couldn’t see them, except during takeoff and landing, of course. Speculation of other kinds of “secret aircraft” don’t make sense for the same reasons – also the sightings were in Mexico. Secret aircraft do not fly around Mexico with their landing lights on. Secret aircraft (unless the Mexicans have their own) do not land in Mexico.

    The lights do look kind of like landing lights of an two airliners coming straight at the camera, however. But if they were airliners, strobes and navigation lights would also be visible. They’re not airliners (or any other kind of legitimate civilian aircraft).

    I think we have legitimately unidentified objects here. The analysis by serious observers should be interesting. As far as I’m concerned, space aliens are as good an explanation as anything else I’ve heard.

  11. Ken Hall says:
    May 12, 2004 at 2:25 pm

    I’m going to spend the weekend by the lake….

  12. Bill McCabe says:
    May 12, 2004 at 3:47 pm

    The Signs aliens are the Backstreet Boys of alien invaders. Come on, sure they’re strong and agile, and have built in chemical weapons. But they don’t have any guns. I can drop them all day long with my carbine.

    I have no idea what it is, but I suspect there is a perfectly conventional explaination.

  13. popskull says:
    May 12, 2004 at 4:24 pm

    I think its the streetlamps on a foggy night in the mall parking lot?

  14. red says:
    May 12, 2004 at 4:29 pm

    popskull – you kind of hit the nail on the head. They do look just like that

  15. CW says:
    May 12, 2004 at 8:59 pm

    Ah – the NASA SR-71s. Technically there were I think 2 NASA Blackbirds, one of them a two-seat B-model, that worked for Dryden in recent years on the aerospike engine project. But they haven’t flown in years (last flight ’99, IIRC), and I think they have both been sent to museums. Earlier NASA flew A-12s in the 70s.

  16. Patrick says:
    May 13, 2004 at 1:51 am

    Oh great. This is the last thing we need.

  17. Mr. Lion says:
    May 13, 2004 at 3:50 am

    Looks an awful lot like two identical aircraft flying in formation to me.

    As for it being a blackbird– no. They don’t fly low over foreign dirt, and they certainly don’t fly low with lights on.

    There are a couple still operational, however. The Air Force maintains two of them in operational status, two are on loan to NASA and are parked at Edwards, and two are in flyable storage at Palmdale. Rumor has it there’s also another one or two hiding at Lockheed in flyable storage.

    The rest, alas, are either in museums, graveyards, or several thousand pieces.

  18. CW says:
    May 13, 2004 at 10:11 am

    I think Mr. Lion may be referring to the reactivation of two USAF SR-71s in 1995, which unfortunately are no longer operational, and the static display aircraft at Blackbird Airpark, at Edwards AFB (actually Plant 42 in Palmdale). As I previously posted, NASA had another two airframes, but NASA SR-71 flying program was cancelled in 2001, with the last flight taking place in support of the aerospike engine test in 1999.

    Several years ago (1993, I think) there was legislation mandating that the Air Force reactivate the SR-71 program. Two aircraft (#971 and #967) were restored and briefly returned to service (in ’95). Of those, one (967) is now at the Air Force museum at Barksdale AFB and the other (971) is at the Evergreen Air Museum in McMinnville, Oregon. Of the two NASA Blackbirds (#956 -the B model- and #980), 956 went to Kalamazoo, Michigan and 980 -the last of the Blackbirds- is now on static display at Dryden.

    For an account of every existing Blackbird, see
    http://www.edwards.af.mil/museum/docs_html/blackbird_survivors.html

  19. CW says:
    May 13, 2004 at 10:12 am

    Also a friend in the Air Force sent me the Mexican gun camera video of the UFOs. I have no idea what they are, but I’d bet beer they are not heavier-than-air vehicles built by humans.