Back by popular demand ...
Here is the story of a Master Class I had with Liza Minelli! Just one note: She actually did just have back surgery when this class took place, and was still in recovery. Apparently, she has recovered - not only her back, but her voice as well. At the time I met Liza Minelli, however, she was a trainwreck careening at me.
During my second year in grad school, it was announced to us by the head of our voice department, with great aplomb and pomposity, that we would be having a "master class with Liza Minelli". The department-head was her personal voice coach, and basically had an "in" with Liza.
I just want to get one thing straight before I launch into my tale of woe and cruelty (because I am probably going to say some cruel things about Liza):
In her day, in her prime, Liza Minelli was a genius. If you don't believe me, then watch Cabaret again. If you don't believe me, watch New York, New York. Also, the woman won (help me out here, Mitchell) - a Tony, a Grammy, an Emmy, and an Oscar. Maybe even multiple awards in these categories. I'm not sure - let's just say she's been medalled, left and right. You don't win awards in all of these different fields if you are a total JOKE. But along with her obvious gift, came a host of evils. Narcissism, alcoholism, self-destructive tendencies - all of which have basically resulted in Liza losing her voice.
I know it's very easy to make fun of her now - she is kind of ridiculous now - yes. And her pop album (Liza with a Z) was ALWAYS mockery-worthy. If you ever need a good laugh, and if you get off on someone else doing something really reaaaaallly embarrasing, I highly suggest you find it, and listen to it with a raucous group of friends. My friend Mitchell and I used to BLAST it, during college, listening, singing along, and making fun of it riotously, all at the same time. What I am trying to say is is that it's not like she's on the level of, say, Siegfried and Roy, or something. The woman truly had a gift. If you don't agree, that's fine, but I don't really feel like debating it, because it's completely subjective - what I am saying is is that you can't argue with her accomplishments, and that she once had great acclaim.
Mitchell said about her once, "She commits - and FULLY - to the craziest things onstage. Like - someone with a normal ego would say - 'Uh. No. I'm not going to do that.' But Liza DOES."
Sometimes she succeeded, sometimes she flopped. That's what happens when you take risks.
HOWEVER. My encounter with her, on the day of the Master Class, is worthy of a Tennessee Williams one-act.
How far the great have to fall.
It was only funny afterwards. While it was happening, I was a writhing mess of embarrassment and agony. My friend Jen, who was also in the Master Class, actually started to weep at one point. It was a truly traumatic experience. Which is hysterical. (In retrospect.)
So. Big fanfare. "Liza's coming! Liza's coming! Liza's coming!"
Normally, we had class in little classroom with a piano, but for Liza, we moved into a huge echoey auditorium, with a grand piano. A couple of students were chosen to be guinea pigs. Ahem. A couple of students were going to sing, and Liza was going to work with them on their songs.
The class gathered in the auditorium. There was a bit of ghoulish curiosity in all of us. To see Liza, in the flesh. What would she be like? What did the next hour hold for us?
I sat with one of my best friends in school, Wade, a crazy cynical Texan guy. Wade is one of the greatest and funniest men I have ever known. I loved him dearly. He was one of my best friends in the program. We clicked on the first day of school, and that was IT. He would wear his Stetson hat to class. He was a babe magnet. He was hot. But he didn't care about being hot. He was honest. He was hilarious. And damn talented. Sitting next to him was a mistake because there were a couple of times when I almost started guffawing like a lunatic during the Master Class, because of some caustic thing Wade whispered to me. Or, he didn't even need to whisper to me. He and I would just glance at each other, and I would be DONE.
Class was supposed to begin at 4 pm, so we all gathered in the auditorium at five of 4. 4 p.m. came and went. There were no "authority figures" around. None of our teachers had showed up. There was no Liza. It was just us. We were waiting.
Waiting for Liza.
20, 25 minutes passed! Yes, we did wait that long. All of our anticipation and ghoulish curiosity completely disappeared in the wait. It was like we were in grade school, and the teacher had stepped out of the room for a minute. Complete mayhem ensued. We leapt up onto the cavernous stage and did imitations of our teachers, we did imitations of each other, we did hostile imitations of the dean of the school, we shouted, we hooted, we hollered, we were completely out of control - we obviously needed adult supervision, and we WERE adults. Wade, in his Stetson, doing an imitation of our dean ... Honestly. You had to be there. We were weeping with laughter.
4:25 comes, and all discipline has disappeared, and this is when Liza and the head of the voice department finally showed up.
The door at the back of the aisle opened suddenly. A couple of my classmates were engaged in some hostile improvisational skit up on the stage, involving imitations of a couple of our teachers - and so we were so busted. We bustled back into our seats, staring up the aisle in ghoulish curiosity at Liza. Liza frickin' Minelli. Our teacher for the day.
Liza was surrounded by the entire voice department. All 4 teachers were huddled around her. She needed the support of those 4 people to make it down the looooong aisle to the stage.
At times, she seemed about ready to collapse into a quivery mess, her knees kept buckling under her, and she would wildly stagger about, her legs going this-a-way, that-a-way ... and our whole voice department would stagger about after her, waiting to catch her if she fell. Our mood of slap-happy ghoulishness disappeared at the sight of Liza, who was obviously a wreck.
We sat quietly. Staring back at her, as she staggeringly approached us.
Now, for her outfit:
She was wearing a big triangular-shaped BRIGHT RED woolen coat. It came out from her neck into a triangle, and it stopped just above her knees. Then, coming out from beneath the triangle, were two absolute stick-figure legs, encased in black spandex. So her shiny black stick legs emerged from the massive red triangle.
Later, when I was describing the debacle to Mitchell, I said, choosing my words carefully, "In her outfit, Liza looked like ... she looked like ... I guess she looked like a bloated tick."
What I am trying to say is: We expected Liza Minelli to come teach our Master Class, and instead we were confronted by a bloated tick.
Years later, I had completely blocked out the whole Master Class, because it was way too disturbing. Yet for Mitchell (who wasn't even there) it remained a vivid memory. He said to me once, "Oh, member when Liza Minelli showed up and she was a bloated tick..."
I burst out laughing and said, "Bloated tick??? That is so HOSTILE! And hilarious!!"
There was a pause, and then Mitchell said flatly, "Sheila, I'm quoting you."
"Oh ... I said that? God. I'm so mean."
Liza's hair was short (of course) - and she had a terrible case of bed head. Her hair was all squashed off to one side, and then the back was COMPLETELY flat. As though someone had held a plate onto the back of her head.
And the woman could not walk.
Unfortunately, none of you are with me in person right now - because I do a hell of an imitation of Liza Minelli's stagger-walk down the aisle. (Right, Alex?)
Imagine this: you set your right foot out to take a step, but instead of putting it down directly in front of you, you scoop it waaaaaaaay out to the side, and - without putting your foot down, you then scoop it waaaaaay back in, across your other leg - and then you finally put your foot down on the ground. A wild perverse dance-step. If you try to walk like that, you will lose your balance. You will look very wobbly. That's how she walked. Her equilibrium was shot.
And when I saw her bedhead, coupled with the fact that she was half an hour late, coupled with the crazy woman walk comin' at me, I realized that she probably had slept the entire day away, and the entire voice department, alarmed, had raced to her apartment, woken her up out of her drugged-out sleep, slapped some clothes on her which happened to make her look like a bloated tick, didn't even run a comb through her hair, carried her into a cab, took her downtown, and then presented her to us, like: TA-DA, as though everything was normal.
It was SICK. It would be like taking a tour of some famine-struck country, and you're in a limo, and your tour guide keeps babbling about how happy the people are, and how great everything is, and yet - out the window you see stark misery.
Like: this woman needs to be in a HOSPITAL. Not teaching a Master Class!
The head of our voice department had a placid (and panicked) beam of pride on his face, as he held onto the staggering bloated tick who was his star pupil.
He announced, "Class! I give to you: Miss ... Liza Minelli!"
Her eyelids were drooping down over her eyeballs compulsively, and her knees kept bobbling, and she swooped her head around to the class, smiling at us in a profoundly intimate and intensely disturbing way.
Just the FACT that I was sitting next to Wade meant that I was in trouble.
Liza was helped into a seat in the front row. She said nothing to us. I don't think she COULD speak at that point. She was obviously on some kind of drugs. From my vantage point, now that I was sitting behind her, all I could see was the flat-back of her bed-head, and the red triangle of her coat ballooning out into the seats next to her.
She did not lead the Master Class.
The head of our voice department said, "Matt ... let's start with you."
I cannot begin to describe to you the vibe in that auditorium. Nobody could even BREATHE. Liza was this bobble-headed bloated tick in the front row. It was so disturbing.
Matt goes up onto the stage, Les (our accompanist) took his place at the grand piano. Matt, politely addressing Liza (who could not have cared less since her eyes were rolling back into her bedhead), said, "I'll be singing blah blah blah today."
Then he sang.
When he finished, silence descended on all of us, as we waited for Liza to take over. Nobody said a word. Nobody moved. Wade reached out and gripped my hand. I couldn't look at him. Someone needed to take the reins, and quickly ... I looked at Liza, in the front row, and - during Matt's song - her head had literally fallen back onto the back of her chair - nose up to the air - and she was FAST asleep. Her mouth was open, people. She was conked out, the entire time of Matt's song. And not just dozing in boredom, trying to hide it. This woman was openly FAST ASLEEP.
At this point, I started to get angry. Not at Liza. But at the powers-that-be. They should have just canceled the damn class. This was ridiculous. This was so embarrassing. I thought I would die of embarrassment.
Matt, standing up onstage, glanced down at Liza. He obviously saw that she had just entered a deep REM cycle, so he just stood there like an orphan ... wondering what he should do, wondering who would save him ... should he bark out: "Hey! SLEEPY! You with me??" He just stood up there, arms hanging awkwardly, with this odd look of polite embarrassment on his face.
I was gripping Wade's hand. "This is awful," I whispered.
Wade was starting to get hysterical. I could feel it.
Department-head nudged Liza awake.
I am not exaggerating when I say she snorted as she woke up.
She had missed the entire song.
In a completely dazed drugged-out voice (and yet so completely recognizable as Liza's), she said up to him, "I'm sorry, darling. Darling, I'm so sorry. Could you run that by me one more time?"
It was at this point that Wade silently and unobtrusively got up and left the auditorium. He couldn't take it anymore.
So Matt politely ran through his song one more time.
During the song, the entire class nervously kept our eyes on the black head in the front row. Nobody paid attention to Matt. I saw Liza fall in and out of sleep about 10 times. It was like that guy on the bus you sometimes see, head flopping to one side, jerking himself awake, head flopping off to one side again, then jerking himself awake - over and over and over and over again. Sometimes she jerked herself awake with more violence than other times, jumping up in her chair, other times was more subtle. But this woman was obviously slipping into a perpetual coma all through Matt's song.
Matt knew it, too, as he sang. He said to me later, "I kept thinking - I don't know what to do. Should I stop? Should I just stop the whole class?"
Matt finished "running it by Liza one more time", and then waited. We all waited.
Liza then decided to teach. Which was even more awful than the narcolepsy. I profoundly missed Wade, suddenly. I felt abandoned without his Stetson beside me. My partner in crime. Liza stood up, and promptly fell right back down. 3 voice teachers leapt out of their chairs immediately to help her up. Liza decided she wanted to be up on the stage with Matt. So that she could teach.
I was terrified. I thought I was going to witness something awful. Like - the disintegration of a human being's personality. Like the end of Star is Born with James Mason pleading to the crowd, "I need a job! I need a job!" I thought she might start to ... tell us stories of her life, or start to try to sing for us, or suddenly start to weep like a gibbering chimpanzee ... It felt like anything could happen.
Frighteningly, she refused help in getting up the stairs.
It took her 10 minutes to climb the 6 stairs up to the stage. At every moment, she looked like she would collapse. Her teeny black-spandex stick legs were bucking about wildly, emerging from under the enormous red triangle.
Then there she was up onstage, untethered, no stair railing, nothing. Just Liza and Matt.
Matt was staring at her with a look of barely concealed terror.
(Later, as you can imagine, the entire class laughed about our Master Class with such abandon that the humor STILL has not died - and when we run into each other, we still reference it.)
Matt was alone. with Liza coming at him, and Liza was saying absolutely incomprehensible things in a slurred incomprehensible voice.
It went like this:
"Well, darling, I think you're just wonderful...I really do, darling ... wonderful ... just wonderful, darling ... who ever taught you how to be so wonderful, darling? ... I think you need to flow with it more ... you know, darling? ... and what I like to do is to put my hand on the piano and just feel the flow, darling, feel the flow ... come over here with me .. come to the piano, darling ..."
Matt obeyed. I mean, what are you gonna do when Liza tells you to "come to the piano, darling"...
"Let's feel the music together now, darling..."
Les, our hilarious cynical pianist who always looked annoyed about life in general, began to play some random song, with this look of wounded pissed-off dignity on his face. I loved Les.
Matt was trapped, with his hand beneath Liza's. Matt was trying to feel the music, in front of the whole class, with Liza 10 inches away from his face, her eyes rolling back in her head.
"I'd like to hear you do it again, darling ..." (or, with all the slurring, it sounded like this:
"mmmmIdliket'hearyoudoooitagainnn,darling
allrightdarlingallright....")
Then, of course, it took her 10 minutes to stagger her way off the stage before Matt could try it again. And, of course, with such unclear suggestions, he sang the song pretty much the same way as before. And Liza sat in the front row again, dozing off, jerking herself awake, dozing off, jerking herself awake, dozing off...
At one point, Jen, my dear friend and roommate, sitting a couple rows ahead of me, turned around to look at me, and she had tears running down her face.
It truly was abominable. It was shatteringly embarrassing to be in her presence. Which is why Wade left the room. I longed to be with him. I longed to be anywhere but there.
We went through the ENTIRE charade with 2 more students. Nobody intervened. We had to go on with the pretense that we were having a normal Master Class. I wanted to stand up and scream: "This is RIDICULOUS AND A WASTE OF TIME."
Our routine:
-- Student goes up onstage.
-- Sings. Liza sleeps through the whole thing.
-- Liza is then nudged awake. Murmurs in a slurred voice, "Could you run that by me one more time, darling?"
-- Song sang a second time. Liza sleeps through the whole thing, and is nudged awake periodically by head of voice department.
-- Then comes a litany of incomprehensible comments.
"darlingyou'resowonderful...truly.... yoursingingiswonderful..."
At one point, she mentioned "mama" - and I do admit I felt a shiver of a thrill. "Mama used to say..."
The last student went up onstage, now KNOWING what is in store, now DREADING the ordeal before him, cursing the day of his birth, wishing he had never been born, knowing he has to deal with a staggering drugged-out bedheaded Liza as his teacher, and somehow be polite and get through it without falling apart. Same routine.
3rd student sings as Liza takes a nice long SNORING nap.
The whole thing was tragic. And PAINFUL to witness.
I felt completely abused afterwards. Like: I had been subjecting to something I did not want to see. I felt trapped. I felt PISSED.
The class FINALLY ended and I got the hell out of there, and met up with Wade, where we promptly began to find the humor in it, and we ended up laughing so hard that we could no longer speak, and our stomachs hurt the next day. We stood in a subway station, and I did an imitation of her terrifying stagger across the stage at Matt, and I thought Wade was going to jump in front of a train he was laughing so hysterically.
The next week, Liza left a message for our class:
"I am so sorry I let you all down. I had just had back surgery and was out of it from the pain killers. Please let me make it up to you, darlings. I would like to do another class with you all next week."
The 2nd Master Session with Liza was set up for the following week, but I cut class and went out carousing with Wade instead.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I LOVE this story and the brilliant way you tell it! I read it first about a year ago and I reread it every month. It's like a Robert Benchley essay or a Cornelia Otis Skinner piece.
Fabulousdarlingjustfabulous!
Posted by: Stevie at September 28, 2005 1:51 PMStevie ...
Darling, could you run that by me one more time?
hahahaha
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 1:52 PMOutstandingly written, and I needed the humor today (thanks!), but I have to ask: you must have heard how the 2nd class went after the fact, right? Was she coherent?
Posted by: Steve G. at September 28, 2005 2:11 PMsteve G - Apparently, she was incredible. She was sobered up first of all - but she came prepared, ready to work, and was, in general funny, wonderful - She worked with everyone for 3 hours - (an hour more than she had signed up for). Very generous.
So sadly, I did miss the great class.
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 2:44 PMincredibly funny and sad - I think the incredible Rita Moreno has won all 4 (Emmy/Oscar/Tony/Grammy) and is the only one to have accomplished that feat. As great as Liza is (or was I guess) she's not there yet.
Posted by: kevin at September 28, 2005 2:47 PMBut she has won awards in multiple categories! Very hard to do, damn near impossible. Barbra Streisand hasn't won all 4? I thought she had. I love that Rita Morena is on that list ... I didn't know that!
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 2:49 PMI am going on about 2 hours sleep, and this story has given me the will to live.
I'm doing the Liza Walk as I type this.
Posted by: Alex at September 28, 2005 3:02 PMakex - hahahahaha I bet you are!!!
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 3:05 PMif you get off on someone else doing something really reaaaaallly embarrasing
I wrote a story once about a female military police soldier when I was stationed at Fort Huachuca.
She was dating one of my soldiers and he kept telling me about how well she could sing. One day, he tells me that she had worked on cutting a CD over the summer when she was on leave. I thought to myself, "This is a great personality feature." I got her number and hooked up an interview.
The interview went well and she even brought a copy of the CD and a press pack. This was a little odd, I thought, since she's not even attempting to market herself yet. Here's this CD with a glossy insert and a little Mead two-pocket folder with press-ready photos and PR from her producer.
Odd as this was, it was still a decent story -- a woman military policeman on duty, diva off. Or so I thought. My problem was, I was taking my troop's word that she could sing. I hadn't yet listened to the CD.
Let me pause for a moment to explain something. A military newspaper is not a very large publication (there are a couple of exceptions). When we get our hands on a good story, we can't really just drop it and run something else, because a lot of the time we don't have a something else to run. This was my pickle.
After the interview, I decided to pop in the CD while I wrote down some of her quotes and started to get stuff down on paper. Well, I didn't get a paragraph worth of info down before I had to stop the CD and wonder who told this girl she could sing.
I confronted my soldier and asked him why he lied to me. He said, "No, no, seriously, she sings really, really good." I played him the CD. He said, "Okay. She sings really, really bad on CD."
I was stuck though. I didn't have any other stories to take its place so I wrote up this article about her striving to turn her hobby into something more. All the time taking utmost precaution to not actually mention anything about the quality of her voice.
Biggest piece of BS I've ever written. I laugh every time I think about it. There's one song I still can't get out of my head. In my hell, this song would play in the elevator.
Posted by: Cullen at September 28, 2005 3:22 PM"No, no, seriously, she sings really, really good." I played him the CD. He said, "Okay. She sings really, really bad on CD."
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh man! Now I SO want to hear her CD!!
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 3:24 PMI later found out she was a classically trained singer. As in opera, etc.
The album was late-'90s style pop and she just never get into the groove. And whever she'd try and put an "uh hu" inflection anywhere it's send her off key. I mean, it was painful.
A sample lyric (the chorus):
"I remember those cool, summer nights"
(Even the lyrics are bad)
Posted by: Cullen at September 28, 2005 3:32 PMhahahaha
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 3:33 PM"He said, "Okay. She sings really, really bad on CD."
Kinda like Bjork.
Posted by: Lisa at September 28, 2005 3:38 PMI don't think of Bjork singing. I think of it as ... I guess, for lack of a better term, Bjorking.
Stand up. You've got to manage.
Was it her that did the song in the brothel in Tank Girl? I thought that was good. Otherwise I've not heard any Sugarcubes or Bjork I've been fond of.
Posted by: Cullen at September 28, 2005 3:45 PM"She was a trainwreck careening at me."
I get the most delicious visual because of this line. So awesome. This whole story is fabulous. I'm totally hitting you up for the walk the next time I see you.
Posted by: curly mcdimple at September 28, 2005 3:47 PMI actually love Big Time Sensuality by Bjork - Bjork is not my favorite but that song rocks.
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 3:52 PMcurly - it works best if we can do it in public. Then you can watch the innocent passersby back away from me in horror.
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 3:53 PMI was not trying to imply in anyway that Liza was not a multiple award winner in multiple categories, but for useful trivia only Rita Moreno has won all 4 awards. I liked her best in Arthur, my wife loves her in Cabaret. But trainwreck is a good description
Posted by: kevin at September 28, 2005 4:02 PMIt is VERY useful trivia. I had no idea!
Do you know what Rita won for in each category?
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 4:03 PMWell, "I" only know one off the top of my head, Best Supporting Actress in West Side Story.
"I like to live in America..."
Posted by: JFH at September 28, 2005 4:08 PMGod, I love that movie. Okay, so there's the Oscar. Did she do the part on Broadway as well and win the Tony? And I guess that the West Side Story album probably won a Grammy - I'm just guessing.
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 4:10 PMThe busier the street, the better as far as I'm concerned. I'll bust out one of my really good physical impressions so that we can really scare people. The idea of people fleeing is making me giggle like a maniac.
And you're totally right about "Big Time Sensuality." Excellent song.
Posted by: curly mcdimple at September 28, 2005 4:10 PMAccording to the Internet Broadway Database (ibdb.com), Moreno won the Tony for The Ritz. Not sure about the Emmy or Grammy though.
I heart Rita Moreno. Speaking of Broadway, did you hear about Bernadette Peters' husband? So sad.
Posted by: curly mcdimple at September 28, 2005 4:14 PMAccording to imdb:
In 1977, she became the ninth performer to win the Triple Crown of Acting: (Oscar: Best Supporting Actress in West Side Story (1961), Tony, Best Featured Actress, The Ritz (1975) and Emmy 1977 ("The Muppet Show" (1976)) and 1978 ("The Rockford Files" (1974)).
Further Googling reveals:
the Grammy was for her 1972 performance on "Electric Company Album."
Sheesh, the "Electric Company Album" ??? Didn't Andy Warhol say, "In the future, everyone will be famous for winning a Grammy"?
Posted by: JFH at September 28, 2005 4:15 PMwow - Rita came a long way from playing the poor Siamese woman weeping at the feet of the King in King and I, didn't she??
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 4:16 PMcurly - no, what happened? Let me look at my Playbill - I'm sure it's on that site. But what happened?
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 4:17 PMCurly - just found the news. God. So sudden and sad. Awful!
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 4:19 PMOkay, so I just looked up Babs' stats:
It says:
"Was the first person ever to receive a Grammy, an Emmy, an Oscar, and a Tony. She won her first Grammy in 1963, her first Emmy in 1965, her first Oscar in 1968, and her one Tony in 1970. Her Tony was a non-competitive award for Star of the Decade, which is why most people attribute this first to others (such as Rita Moreno) who won all 4 awards in competitive categories."
So it doesn't REALLY count - the Tony - because it wasn't won competitively.
She had been nominated twice for Tonys in Funny Girl and I Can Get it for you Wholesale - but did not win.
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 4:24 PMI know! I feel terrible. You know how I adore my Bernadette. It's so sad.
Posted by: curly mcdimple at September 28, 2005 4:28 PMIs it wrong that I'm happy Babs has an asterisk next to her Tony win? Yeah, she's talented but she irritates me so.
Posted by: curly mcdimple at September 28, 2005 4:29 PMcurly - I love Barbra, so we must diverge on that point - but seeing as I am enraged every time I think about the fact that Renee Zellweger actually won an Oscar - I think your reaction is perfectly okay.
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 4:32 PMAs long as we're slightly OT, I've had a crush on Bernadette Peters since I first saw here on the Johnny Carson show in the 70-71 time frame. (I was only 9 or 10 at the time). This was well before she was a star and I think Johnny had a crush on her also.
Came with Bob Hope to the Naval Academy one year and I got a picture with her, but have lost it in my multiple moves since then (DAMN!!!). The funny thing is that there was a huge crowd of Mids all lined up to get pictures with Brooke Shields and Christy Brinkley, but just a few of us who knew who the REAL star was.
Posted by: JFH at September 28, 2005 4:35 PMI love that story, JFH!!
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 4:38 PMThank you. Although, my distaste for Babs is FAR less vehement than your loathing of Renee. I save that extra venom for Al Roker. That turd bitched out my friend's sick grandmother.
Posted by: curly mcdimple at September 28, 2005 4:39 PMcurly - i am so sorry but I am shaking with laughter.
al roker? what did he do???
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 4:40 PMThat's a great story, JFH! I'm positively smitten with Bernadette. I'm 31 so I often have a hard time explaining it to people. But I will say that she is as nice as she is talented. I've stalked, er, I mean... met her a few times.
Posted by: curly mcdimple at September 28, 2005 4:42 PMSheila, my friend's grandmother was in the hospital being wheeled about. I think she was still a bit loopy from the anasthesia when she saw him. She said something like, "Oh, I love you with Kathie Lee." Yes, she was WAY off the mark but again, she was old and drugged up. And he apparently got all bitchy and rude with her and made her feel bad. My friend has no use for him. I also find him annoying in general so I feel vindicated in my dislike.
Posted by: curly mcdimple at September 28, 2005 4:48 PMJeezus, Red.
I've got tears running down my fac, the hiccups, and my stomach hurts, darling.
curly - what? Oh that is just. not. right.
Fuck Al Roker.
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 4:56 PMspd rdr - hahahaha Glad to entertain!!!
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 4:56 PMFuck Al Roker indeed. I think I'm going to have shirts made up.
I've heard from more than one person that he's a real asshole. Katie Couric isn't the only bitch on the Today show.
Posted by: curly mcdimple at September 28, 2005 5:02 PMIt's hard to believe that this Al Roker is the same funny little kid I went to high school with. (St. Francis Xavier on 16th St. btwn 6th & 7th, then a Jesuit-run military gulag.) Then again, after not living in NY for many years I was shocked when my dad pointed him out on the local news and asked me if I knew who he was. I didn't have a clue. When he told me, all I could say was that little Al grew up to be Fat Albert. Apparently, the fat has gone to his head.
Posted by: spd rdr at September 28, 2005 5:24 PMSorry I dissed your former classmate! But I do have it on good authority that he's rotten. I think he's all sorts of bitter about being fat. Well, he's trimmed down now but I think that was the root of the problem before. For a while there people were posting stories on Craigslist (NY) about what a bitch he was. Granted, not the most trusted source but noteworthy nonetheless. A lot of people don't dig the Roker.
Posted by: curly mcdimple at September 28, 2005 8:48 PMNo sweat, Curly.
I don't know the guy for thirty years.
"...I've had a crush on Bernadette Peters since I first saw here on the Johnny Carson show in the 70-71 time frame. (I was only 9 or 10 at the time)"
I believe my similar crush on her dates to a guest appearance on The Muppet Show.
Posted by: Dave J at September 28, 2005 11:17 PMAlex would be better at this than I, but in her absence, here goes:
THE MANY, MANY, MANY AWARDS OF B. STREISAND
STAGE
New York Drama Critics Award and Tony nomination, I Can Get It For You Wholesale
Tony Nomination, Funny Girl
Tony Award, Star of the Decade (1970) [I think this was a trumped up award because she didn't win for Funny Girl - don't know if it "counts"]
FILM
Academy Award and Golden Globe, Funny Girl
Academy Award, Composing, "Evergreen" from A Star is Born
10 total Golden Globes (including best director and producer of best musical, Yentl, making her the first female to win a best director Golden Globe)
Golden Globe Cecil B. DeMille Award
AFI Lifetime Achievement Award
TELEVISION
Emmy Award and Peabody Award, My Name is Barbra
2 Emmy Awards and Peabody Award, Barbra Streisand: The Concert
2 Emmy Awards, Barbra Streisand: Timeless/Live in Concert
3 Emmy Awards (producer), The Margarethe Cammermeyer Story
MUSIC
49 Gold Albums
30 Platinum Albums
18 Multi-Platinum Albums
Biggest Seller - Guilty - 20 million copies sold;
As an artist, is ranked #2 in total sales - more sales than the Beatles and Rolling Stones, with only Elvis Presley having sold more records
8 Grammy Awards
1 Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award
1 Grammy Legend Award
MISCELLANEOUS
6 People's Choice Awards
4 AGVA Georgie Awards
2 Cable ACE Awards
Human Rights Campaign - 2004 Humanitarian Award
Honorary Doctorate - Brandeis University
WHEW! It's true that Rita Moreno is the only person to win the 4 performance awards, but I would hazard to say that La Barbra has enough gold-plated paraphernalia cluttering up her bookshelves to rank as the most award-winningest performer . . . ever.
Okay, I've embarrassed myself in true flaming tradition, but there it is.
Posted by: Stevie at September 28, 2005 11:31 PMStevie - good LORD!!! Bravo!
Pretty amazing, really. I like what Marvin Hamlisch says about her: "She tries for perfection, because she wants to please her fans, and she feels her fans have verh high expectations for her." I think that there is a gloss of attempted perfection in everything she does, although I think the material upon which her efforts are based is often mundane, particularly in regards to songs she chooses to record. Sometimes the attempt at perfection is in itself the damaging part - like you've said, her Live in Central Park album is phenomenal because it is live and therefore not perfect.
Posted by: Stevie at September 28, 2005 11:53 PMstevie - well, she was fearless back then, too. In her performance - but also her voice. I mean, her voice is amazing no matter what ... but ... I don't know ... she got cautious as she went along. When she lets it rip on He Touched Me ... I swear. It is a transcendent live moment. Truly unforgettable. Makes the hairs on my arm rise up no matter how many times I've heard it.
Posted by: red at September 28, 2005 11:55 PMYes - that's it, Red, fearless vs. cautious. Well put. He Touched Me is a knockout, no question. I think her acting of My Man in the movie of Funny Girl comes close to hitting that level, but if it had been filmed and recorded live, oh my - I'd like to see that!
Posted by: Stevie at September 29, 2005 12:04 AMif any of us were awarded a "Tony" for STAR of the decade! by our professional peers...would we feel it didnt "count"?..she didnt award it to herself..its like when actors get Oscars for performances that are less deserving because they should have gotten them for an amazing one..do they count? Its like the orginization making up for a mistake. Im way too close to the topic as you know Sheila..The Tao of Barbra..ya know...
Posted by: Mitchell at September 29, 2005 12:14 PMsheil,
i read this out loud to jim and larry last night and we were all roaring. unbelievable. i'd missed this the first time around, never knew you'd had a "master class". amazing.
love,
bren
bren - hahahahaha
One of my favorite stories.
makes me miss Wade. Wade Mylius - are you out there????
Posted by: red at September 29, 2005 12:22 PMmitchell - hahahaha down boy!
It counts - but it doesn't COUNT count. It's like Cary Grant FINALLY being awarded an Oscar. He shoulda gotten it when he was competing for it - show me a better actor than that guy. He makes it look easy, so they blow him off. (Strangely - I think Ewan McGregor may have the same fate. We shall see. I just watched Moulin Rouge last night and I don't believe he was nominated for his performance. Which is ... wrong. Frankly. Kidman is great - but without the rock of his performance, she wouldn't be nearly as effective.)
But I totally agree - it's like: "whoops, we messed up ... you shoulda won this ..."
I will not, however, disrupt the Tao of Barbra. You must do what you must do. I completely understand.
You know I love her.
Posted by: red at September 29, 2005 12:24 PMwill Julianne Moore suffer the same fate???
Posted by: Mitchell at September 29, 2005 12:26 PMHmm. Yeah - it's those actors whose work is subtle - the rock of whatever movie they're in. But because it looks effortless they are ignored.
They aren't going around playing limping retarded Inuits (ahem - member that?) in order to get the Academy's attention.
Posted by: red at September 29, 2005 12:28 PMhahaha...altho' i just watched Gilbert Grape again last night and Leo is sooo good..even my my friends who work with mentally challenged people say its the only depiction they;ve seen that is accurate...he was marvelous..im still mad at the mother!
Posted by: Mitchell at September 29, 2005 12:30 PMI remember when I first saw that movie - I thought they literally had found a mentally challenged person to play it. It was before Leo was "LEO". Amazing performance.
Posted by: red at September 29, 2005 12:34 PM