September 30, 2005

Happy birthday, Truman!

Today is the birthday of one of my favorite writers - Truman Capote.

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I am so excited to see Philip Seymour Hoffman's take on him. The film got a great review in The NY Times and I'm just so excited about it. Look at the similarities there. Amazing.

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Truman Capote has been one of my many life-long obsessions - so forgive my autuistic knowledge of this man - his life, and his work. Also - I just had to go out and find all the great photos of him, and post them here. People LOVED to photograph this man (at least in his early wunderkind days) - and all of them are online, which is so exciting. So I've found some of my favorites, to post them here for you.

Example:

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Most of my generation only remembers Truman from his appearances on various talk shows, mainly Johnny Carson, when he was a bloated guy with a high lisping voice who was vaguely embarrassing to watch - At least I felt that way. He was obese, he had face lifts, he wore a white Panama hat, he was kind of grotesque. I didn't know that he was basically caricaturing himself by then - which is always death to an artist of any kind.

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But he was stuck. He had horrendous writer's block at the very end - which tormented him. The end of his life was full of despair. It's wrenching to read about - you just want his suffering to stop.

But as a youngun? As the new writer in town? He was a golden boy. He was a creature like Thomas Mann had written about. The golden-haired child-man who led others to do naughty naughty things, and then pled innocence. Photographers lined up to capture this guy.

See what I mean?

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Hard to realize just how provocative those photos were back then. Especially because he was openly gay. And not just "openly gay" - but openly PRISSY and gay - which some people find unforgivable. Fine, be gay ... but ... do you have to be so ... GAY about it?? Can't you just PRETEND to be straight so I don't have to feel so ... ikky? Truman, even back in the early 40s, didn't put on an act for the straight world. He didn't turn himself inside out to make people feel comfortable with his gayness. He just was who he was. If people felt uncomfortable, then that was THEIR problem. He was prissy, he lisped, he flounced about like a Southern belle - AND he happened to be a kick-ass writer with a literary voice that no one could forget.

I still remember the impact that The Grass Harp had on my heart when I first read it.

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That book literally hurt my heart. I was too young then to really understand regrets, or loss - the way I understand them now - but his elegaic writing in that story touched some deep universal chord in me - the part of me that is HUMAN, and not just an age on a timeline. There was a kind of soul-growth spurt that happened to me when I read that sad beautiful story. I still have a real fondness for it.

His first book, published in 1948, was Other Voices, Other Rooms, and it took the literary world by storm. It was one of THOSE debuts. High level reviewers praised the book - in glowing terms - and it truly is a wonderful book. Not as good as his others, and CERTAINLY not as good as In Cold Blood (just saying the name of that book gives me a chill up my spine) - but you could tell that there was a real VOICE in that book.

Just to add to the controversy - here is the "author photo" that appeared sprawled across the back of the book:

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hahahahaha Truman! Please! It caused an outrage. A stir. People loved it. People hated it. People TALKED about it, and that was what Truman cared about. Truman had talent - yes - but he understood the whole 15 minutes of fame thing long before Andy Warhol came along. Truman wanted to be FAMOUS as well as being a good writer. He wasn't one of those writers who holed themselves up in their apartments (at least not until In Cold Blood when he disappeared off the face of the earth for almost 5 years - he said later that writing that book nearly killed him.) ... But before In Cold Blood he was out at every party, he hung out with the rich and famous (at least until the huge debacle at the end of his life when he alienated all of them in one fell swoop)

This photo is just ... kind of says it all, don't it?

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Look at how he's holding her wrist!!! Like - hold her HAND, Truman. But also - look at how sweet she is. The two of them were actually very good friends and he wrote one of my favorite pieces about her, which appears in the gorgeous collection Music for Chameleons. The piece describes a day in New York when he and Marilyn attended a funeral of a mutual friend. I love that piece. It's called "A Beautiful Child", because that's what Truman saw her as. Not the sex goddess. But a beautiful child. Still, though. What a FUNNY photo of the two of them.

He was the darling of New York. He wasn't just friends with celebrities - whose wealth is a rather transitory thing. He became friends with REAL rich people. The international tycoon types. The Onassis types. He was invited to all of the "society" parties.

And he threw a party that is still famous. It was called The Black and White Ball, and he threw it for Katherine Graham - who he didn't even really know.

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She wrote in her autobiography (which I've read): "I was truly baffled as to why I was the guest of honor. But it seemed really important to Truman ... so I said yes."

Odd. It was, many people say who care about this stuff, the "party of the century".

Everyone had to come wearing masks, and everyone had to dress in black and white. Truman had just finished In Cold Blood - or maybe he had just returned from Kansas - not sure - but he needed to let off steam, he needed to shake off In Cold Blood which had literally taken over his life. So he threw this party - where everyone who was anyone showed up.

Here's Candice Bergen at the party:

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Here's Norman Mailer and his wife - hahahaha

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Here's Mia Farrow and Frank Sinatra- who had just gotten married:

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People jostled to get invited. People sucked up to Truman. He was in his glory. But even then - he had the oddest mix of desire and contempt when it came to the rich. He wanted to hang out with them - but he had contempt for them as well. On some level, I think he knew that they would drop him like a hot potato the second his friendship became inconvenient. He knew that his friendships with these people were were pretty one-sided: Truman was there to entertain, to keep things light and amusing. The second he started falling on hard times later in life, they stopped tolerating his company.

Perhaps all those rich people just liked the cache of having a literary star at their parties - it made their parties seem more ... substantial. Maybe they really did like him. But I don't think so. And I don't think Truman liked them all that much, either. He saw right through them. Only he kept that to himself, and let the rich people think that he bought their game, that he was fooled, that he did not see the essential shallowness beneath their facade. When he finally came out and wrote about them and their pettiness, their stupidity - they could not and would not forgive him. (By that point in his life, long after In Cold Blood, Truman had actually lost a lot of what had made him a success in the first place ... and that was his compassion for others. His ability to love his fellow man, and to try to step into their shoes and describe for us, the reader, what it is "like" to be that person. By the 1960s, drugs and drinking had taken hold ... and Truman was angry. He wrote about his former friends with bitchy - but spot-on - RAGE. He had NO compassion for THEM. He could find it in his heart to be compassionate for Dick Hickock and Perry Smtih even though they had committed such a heinous crime. But he was NOT compassionate for the fat Upper East Side cats. He unleashed his wrath on them, and it was like a bomb going off in international society.)

Truman Capote found himself bereft, and alone. He never recovered from that shattering of his world, even though he said over and over, "I'm a writer! What did they think I did in my spare time? I observed life - and I wrote about it!" They did not forgive him for telling the truth. Years later, when Gerald Clarke wrote his tremendous biography of Capote - there were people who refused to be interviewed for the book becaue they were STILL seething at Truman's "betrayal".

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I'm going to post something I wrote a long time ago on this blog - which ended up being published elsewhere. It's called "Fairy on the Prairie", and it's about the writing of In Cold Blood which is pretty much on my Top 10 favorite books ever written. Certain books come and go on that list - titles get bumped off - moved on - but not In Cold Blood. There are a couple of others that never get bumped off - Harriet the Spy, A Wrinkle in Time, Catch-22. These are great great books.

I'm proud of the piece I wrote on Truman.

Before we get to that, though, I would like to share my favorite photo of Truman Capote. It's done by the great photographer Irving Penn. I like it because - it's not the "carefree" look of his golden-boy self - which was a pose, to some degree. It's not the provocative just-got-out-of-bed look he sported as an early writer - which was also a pose. And it's not a photograph from his later years, which just really hurt me to see.

Irving Penn had photographed Spencer Tracy, famously, boxed up in a corner. (That was one of Penn's "things" - he put famous people into corners of rooms and photographed them. Strangely effective.)

Look. Amazing photo of Spencer. Look at the EXPRESSION on his face.

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Penn took basically the same photograph of Truman - boxed him up in a corner. I looked for a larger version of the photo - a clearer one - but couldn't find it. This is the best I could get.

There is something about this photo that not only haunts me, but strikes me as deeply painfully TRUE. The oversized coat, it makes him look so small and frail. The cramped quarters, the walls pressing in. Now, I did not know Truman Capote, and it is not for me to say who is the "real" Truman Capote - but something about the look on his face in this photo, its flat blank-eyed stare, the gaze is a bit confronting, but also - so accepting of himself, of the soul behind those eyeballs - something about it lands for me. I feel that I am getting a glimpse not of a personality, a famous person ... but someone's soul. I feel the same way about the Spencer Tracy photograph - so I don't know what that's about, and I'm sure it has all to do with Irving Penn's gift. It's extraordinary to me.

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And now. Onto In Cold Blood, and my old post about him. There may be some repeats of information here.

Happy happy birthday, dear dear Truman.

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Truman Capote said later that if he had known what he was getting into, when he traveled down to Kansas ("a fairy down on the prairie - who'd have thought?") to write a piece on the murder for The New Yorker, then he never would have gone. He went to Kansas only 2 weeks after the murders took place. The killers had still not been found, the community was in an uproar of suspicion and paranoia. Capote's main interest was to do a long profile of the townspeople, how regular church-going farmers handled such a disaster. Little did he know what the book would eventually be! The project took up years of his life. He had to wait for the executions of the 2 murderers, in order to complete his book. So he waited, and waited. Appeal after appeal ...He was unable to write anything else. Nothing else interested him. He was a man obsessed, in the grip of his obsession for years. His health was ruined. His friends were sick of hearing about the Clutter family. He tried to take vacations with his long-time partner, and would just drink, and try to sleep, and have fits of despair. He thought those boys would never be executed, he thought he would be in limbo forever. Yet - the morbidness of his entire life being on hold because of commuted death-sentences in Kansas - the morbidness of trying to go on, when really all you want is for those 2 boys to be killed - so that YOU can go back to YOUR life ... This paid a huge toll on him.

Finally - there were no more appeals and Capote traveled to Kansas, to watch the execution. Hickock and Smith had asked him to be there. In the intervening years, he had interviewed the 2 killers numerous times. Their first-person descriptions of their own sorry lives make up important parts of the book. Capote became their conduit to the outside world. Hickock would draw self-portraits of himself and send them to Capote. Capote was playing a double-edged game here. He became "the listener", the one who would sit and ask them questions, and nod understandingly. The 2 of them got addicted to his concern. Yet Capote was horrified by most of what he heard. He wasn't without pity for these men, who had pretty much been beaten like dogs from the second they were born - and yet Capote hadn't had an easy road either, and HE hadn't killed anyone in cold blood. He had grown up with alcoholics, he had been abandoned by his father, his parents were ashamed of having a "fairy" for a son, he was sent to military school - can you imagine how awful that must have been for him? Capote may have acted like a cream-puff but that man was cold and hard as steel inside. He had to be.

Capote needed quotes, he needed access, he needed to enter into the psychologies of these 2 men. He was able to paint the graphic picture of the Clutter family through interviews with people who knew and loved them. But the Clutters were no longer around to speak for themselves. Hickock and Smith were alive for a couple of years, so he visited them often. On his way out of Death Row, he would feel the urge to vomit. It would take him days to recover, emotionally, from these macabre "visits". And he said, later, that he never recovered from the "shattering" experience of watching the two men hang. The letters he wrote to friends afterwards are nearly incoherent. Watching how hard the hanging body clings to life, watching the kicking feet, the flailing, the letting-go of bodily functions ... Capote was really never the same man again.

And he then sat down and wrote the book like a bat out of hell.

Truman Capote always thought that he had a "great book" in him. This mythical "great book" haunted his dreams, he would lie awake at night aching with ambition, dreaming about this great book ... He didn't think In Cold Blood was his masterpiece. He looked back on the experience of researching that book and writing it as a grim one, an almost universally unpleasant and grueling experience. I've read all of Capote's books. I love that guy's writing style. I even read his unfinished work - the 2 chapters of the novel he was working on when he died. He claimed to have it almost finished, but the rest of it (if it even existed) was never found. The 2 chapters are okay - it's a gossipy bitchy look at high-class New York society. It's merciless. It's very funny. Nobody is spared. Human beings are seen in their worst lights. Everyone is selfish, cynical, out for themselves ... It is quite funny, but it's very very mean. He was nearing the end of his life, and he had been abandoned by most of his friends. His outlook was not good, he was addicted to drugs, filled with anxiety and loneliness ... The 2 chapter are his way of lashing out at all those people who left him, who tossed him out with the trash. Hence, the mean-ness.

The thing in the rest of Capote's writing that, for me, sets him apart is his undeniable love of humanity. His tenderness. His ability to SEE people, with all their flaws - and to see them as beautiful. Much of his best writing is all about nostalgia, wistfulness, yearning for childhood ... Yes, it is sentimental, but it also has a depth of sadness beneath it, a grief ... which elevates it from mawkishness.

In Cold Blood taps into something else. In Cold Blood doesn't fit into either of the Capote categories: the bitchy mean queen telling all the nasty secrets of his high-class friends, or the lonely sweet man filled with hurtful nostalgia for childhood.

It was something completely new. For him, and for us. I don't even know if I can describe it. All I can say is - he never accomplished such a thing again. His writing never seemed so effortless again. You read that book and you feel like if you cut ONE WORD, the entire thread will unravel. It is so tight.

The other thing I had forgotten from the biography is Capote's personal experience leaving his home-environment of ritzy New York City (where there were lots of "fairies"), and venturing into the Kansas prairies to investigate a murder. Capote was openly gay. He wasn't a macho gay, either. He didn't try to blend in, or act straight, or hide his gayness. He was a small rotund man, who wore wide white hats, spoke with a lisp, fluttered about like Blanche DuBois, and literally said things like, "I declare!"

He took one of his best friends, Harper Lee (yes - THAT Harper Lee) as a co-researcher. She was much more "normal"-acting, and was able to blend in a bit more. She could get people to talk to her, because she seemed like one of them.

But Truman Capote was so relentless, and not only so relentless, but so committed to justice, so committed to discovering what had happened in the Clutter household, that people started opening up. The people in the town started competing about who had had him over for dinner the most times. Alvin Dewey, the head of the investigation, a tough gruff 3 pack a day smoker, eventually counted Truman as a valued partner. Truman was there when Dewey got the call that the 2 murderers had been picked up in Las Vegas, AND that they were still wearing the boots with the distinctive soles (that had left footprints - If the 2 hadn't confessed, the boots alone would have convicted them). Truman was standing right there, with Dewey's wife, listening to Dewey hear the news.

The people of Kansas, who had never met a person like Capote in their lives, who were Bible-Belt ranchers and farmers, took him into their homes, their families, their hearts. Without them, the book would not have been written.

It is a massive accomplishment.

Truman Capote went to his grave thinking that his "great book" remained unwritten. I beg to differ.

Posted by sheila
Comments

brilliant Sheila...i went on my Truman crusade when we were on Ashland..i thank u for that...great writing!

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 4:31 PM

I remember that crusade. He's so so good.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 4:40 PM

god...so good..cant wait for the movie..did it open today?

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 4:45 PM

I think so - the review just came out in the Times. It had been here with the NY Film Festival - but I think the major opening is today./

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 4:46 PM

did u get my e-mail about Liza with a Z?

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 4:47 PM

i used to laugh at it..then i started to love it as a tour-de-force..campy yes..but amazing..its never been released on DVD..some copyright issue..but they restored it and showed it at the Toronto Film Festival and it got standing ovations..so eventually i'll get to see it..put visuals with my childhood lip-syncing frenzies!
Its like a gay christmas!

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 4:49 PM

I did - sorry it's been nuts today.

The quotes from her are CLASSIC!!!

"If you sit down for 20 minutes in this business now it's a comeback."

And I loved this:

"I've always been less dramatic than people want me to be. I get up in the morning and go to dance class every day for an hour and a half. My life is fairly simple. But I've been in Lake Tahoe and read that I'm drunk somewhere in Nevada. It's weird."


Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 4:50 PM

i actually love her loony...but i want to see all the original Fosse staging and stuff..how fun to have seen it on the big screen..Showtime is ging to air it first then dvd..do u ahve Showtime?

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 4:53 PM

I do not. :(

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 4:54 PM

oh..i'll find someone! think ill go see the capote movie tonight...today is my last day off until the 1st of november... truly

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 4:56 PM

Fun! Grueling, but fun.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 4:57 PM

exactly..have u heard of the Bindlestiff family Circus??? they are a NY bastion..the founders are joining us this for the show..very excited

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:02 PM

Awesome!! Haven't heard of them - but i am sure it will be marvelous.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:03 PM

they are wild and cool...hows rehearsal???

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:04 PM

oh..i have to admit something to u...im scared!

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:04 PM

do you want to do that here????

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:04 PM

Your name is really Pamela? What is it???

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:05 PM

You really DON'T like Cary Grant? Now I'm scared.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:05 PM

yeah.. i think its appropriate..ok here goes...i dont hate Entourage...i kinda love it...especially Kevin Dillon. Ok..crucify me!!!!

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:05 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:06 PM

Pamela???!!! HAHAHA

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:06 PM

i feel dirty

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:07 PM

What HAPPENED? Why??? Is it a guy thing? I just think it's a piece of garbage.

Tell me your process of transformation right now.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:07 PM

well..all ur talk about it..i had never seen it..i was at Smirkus...so when i got home and we got our cable hooked up..i had to check it out...i was prepared to despise it...but i think its sweet..those boys love each other..especially the one who becomes the manager...there are tender moments..i dont really laugh but i found myself captvated

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:11 PM

I do concede that manager-boy is wonderful. He makes the scenes seem real. He is adorable, and my favorite one on the show.

But I want to take that fat asshole with the backwards baseball cap and put him into an Acting For Dummies class.

Okay. I'll stop now.

I also don't buy that the lead guy is supposed to be the big up and coming star - there's something "missing" there. He's too passive. Too un-star-like.

Okay. I'll stop now.

hahahaha

I can't stop!!!!

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:13 PM

Kevin Dillon is very funny as the older brother who almost had a career..he's sweet and pathetic.

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:13 PM

I just find him abrasive and want to trip him as he walks by me.

Uhm ... except he never walks by me.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:14 PM

I need to get a life.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:17 PM

the fat guy is sweet i think..i think Jeremy piven is overrated..he seems the guy ive met when ive met him here in chicago..i have a thing for the lead guy..he was in a really sweet indypic about 5 yrs ago that i loved and he won me over

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:18 PM

Hmmmm.

I can't get past the fat kid. I love manager-boy and actually find him sexy - you know me. He's my type. But I can't get past the fat kid.

I have tried!!

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:20 PM

from capote to Adrian Grenier..how? how??

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:20 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:20 PM

It's all your fault. You decided you needed to confess. hahahahaha

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:20 PM

haha!! the fat kid!

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:20 PM

on a different note..after the convo about cash and ben the other night i get a call from Sandi..she was worried about Ben socializing..he says he has no freinds a t school...but then she drops him off and they all yell hi and run at him..she's feeling like a bad mom

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:22 PM

I'm awful. Sorry. Obviously lots of people like the show - and I was bummed they canceled The Comeback and nobody seemed to like that show.

I just think fat kid needs to take an acting class and figure out how to do a simple thing like:

-- make sure that when you're acting like you're having a phone conversation, you WAIT for the imaginary person on the other end to speak before you reply.

Duh.

I'll stop now. I swear.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:22 PM

funny as hell...its like he's too excited..."im on TV..Im on TV!!!"

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:23 PM

Maybe Ben is waiting for that one kindred spirit friend. You know?

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:23 PM

Mitchell - exactly!!

I felt like his entire "thruline" (ahem. I'm an asshole) is "I am on an HBO show!!"

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:24 PM

the principal suggested she make weekend playdates with some of the other kid/parents and build bonds outside of school and also she can watch his interaction...i think that he's ooo used to adult attention that anything less than rapt enjoyment feels like rejection

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:25 PM

hahahaha Man, I know how Ben feels.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:27 PM

There are two poles to life:

1. Rapt enjoyment

2. REJECTION

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:28 PM

exactly..its not that he's spoiled..he's very sweet..but he hasn't spent too much time with other kids...plus the whole being soooo much bigger thing

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:29 PM

A couple of playdates with a specific kid might take care of that.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:30 PM

i hope so..im more worried about Sandi judging herself..she has sooo much responsibility...with my mother and my brother and work and god forbid she have a social life

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:31 PM

Ohhh. Yeah, she shouldn't give herself too hard a time about it.

I can't believe how long it's been since I've seen her. When was it ... Chicago?? I still remember the 3 of us going to see Schindler's List on that freezing freezing day - member that? The impact of seeing that movie for the first time ...

Sandi was speechless. I remember her saying, as we walked out, "Please ... don't talk to me right now ..."

Totally.

I miss her - tell her I said hi.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:34 PM

i will...maybe someday..u can take a trip with me to see them..so fun..Vegas!

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:35 PM

has it been that long???? wow..steven too??

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:36 PM

Okay, do you remember this? I had moved to New York - it was my first year there - and I'm not gonna remember this exactly - but somehow I found out that you-know-who (who has been EVERYWHERE the last couple days - have you noticed??) was getting married. Oh no wait, now I remember - Ann called and told me. I called you and left you a message. I am sure I was hysterical, directly into your answering machine. Later that night, much later - the phone rings - and it was SANDI. I hadn't heard her voice in years - but she knew I was in a state - and she was so gentle - but she was just the messenger - telling me to call you - that for some reason you were unable to call out, and so you couldn't get back to me. It was so sweet - I needed so badly to talk to you - so somehow she must have called you, and you told her to call me and yadda yadda ...

Such a sweet emotional moment.

I can't remember the last time I saw Stee. Yeah - it's been forever.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:40 PM

I think that might be the last time I talked to Sandi.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:42 PM

wow..that was a long time ago..have u heard from "him"...his name does seem to pop up!

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:43 PM

I saw him in Chicago - I told you that, right? It was nice.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:43 PM

um..no!!!!

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:45 PM

I didn't?? What is my problem?

Yeah - I went to see him - and it was good - none of our normal shenanigans - and then I came back to Alex's, and sat out on the porch with her and told her THE ENTIRE STORY. From beginning to end - which I don't think I've ever done before ... at least not in years.

"So then ... in May of 1992 ..."

Yeah. It was a long night.

But despite all the old drama - it was nice to see him. Very nice. Really for the first time, know what I mean?

He asked about you.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:49 PM

I find it highly comedic that we are having this conversation ON MY BLOG. What has happened to our lives???

hahahaha

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:50 PM

hahaha..it didnt even dawn on me!!!!! was Alex properly compassionate considering she's not a fan???

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:51 PM

Oh wait ... I think we're talking about 2 differnt people. I know the one that Alex is not a fan of and that's not who I'm talking about. I'm talking about the OTHER one.

This entire conversation is even doubly funny now.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:53 PM

oh...i see..the other one who got married..oy!!!! what the hell..yes u told me about him..im glad u did that

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:54 PM

Men are always getting married on me! Damn them.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:56 PM

Okay. I'm going to the gym now.

I wonder if anyone else will comment on this thread. hahaha

"Uhm ... I love Truman Capote ... er ... sorry ... don't let me interrupt ..."

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 5:57 PM

have fun beautiful..i love u!!!

Posted by: Mitchell at September 30, 2005 5:59 PM

i love you too - go see Truman!! In honor of his birthday!!

Miss you.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 6:00 PM

My uniformed analysis:

The one passage of "In Cold Blood" that struck me is how Smith eventually admits to the "cold blooded" killings of everyone because Hickock couldn't do it. I honestly think this shook Capote, the one that was more the "dreamer" and might eventually escape his background was exposed as the most sociopathic of the two. In Capote's mind it meant that ANYONE could be a potential sociopath regardless of their potential or innate intellegence (which, unfortuately is true).

I've had a best friend that I finally realized demonstrated some very strong sociopathic tendences which fortuntely didn't cost me anything but moeny, so maybe my analysis is tainted.

Posted by: JFH at September 30, 2005 6:20 PM

uh, that was supposed to be uniNformed, not uniformed although as a veteran either might work.

Posted by: JFH at September 30, 2005 6:21 PM

Sheila - - I know you hate the "fat asshole with the backward baseball cap" on Entourage. Personally, I can't blame you. But I'm starting to feel weird about the way you use "fat" perjoratively. Now I don't want to make a big deal about it, but I'm as big as that "asshole" and yes, I know I'm fat, but it's sorta harsh to have my cyber friend (who has never laid eyes on me, granted) being derogatory about it.

Posted by: Stevie at September 30, 2005 6:29 PM

I am going to insert my opinion in this private (public) blog conversation. Firstly, I have no idea who Ben is, but I am assuming that Sandi is Mitchell's sister and Ben's mother. All I know is that my Ceileidh is the kind of kid who has always marched to her own drummer, and she often wished for her one "true friend" or, as she would say, "Mom, I just want a Sheila. Someone that I will be friends with forever, who will know me when I am grown up." According to Ceileidh, she waited forever for her Sheila (and it truly felt like forever for me. It is hard to sit by and watch your child struggle with relationships.) But for the last 3 years she has had her Sheila- they have been through so much together, and soon they will be 13. So...Mitchell, Ben will find his Sheila, too. He'll be ok. PS Ceileidh's Sheila is named Janice. I love her.

Posted by: Just1Beth at September 30, 2005 6:30 PM

Stevie - huh. Well, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I would never do that intentionally. This entire post is actually about a gentleman who was overweight and I don't notice any pejorative comments there (unless even referencing his weight is seen as pejorative) but if you feel it's a pattern, then I am completely unaware of it and I'm sorry.

It's not the fat-ness I object to of that asshole, it's the assholic untalented-ness of him. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. If he was skinny, he'd still be a bad actor.

But sorry if I've hurt your feelings.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 7:06 PM

Oh, and for the record: I also hate the pretty-boy with the big smile and thick black hair on the show (sorry, Mitchell!). I just didn't happen to mention him here, because my hatred of the fat one is deeper. Not because of the fat-ness, but because he is incompetent.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 7:08 PM

JFH - yes!! Excellent memory - I had forgotten that. It's the scariest part of the book. All along you think it's the mean hardened criminal who was the "in cold blood" guy - but no, it was actually the dreamy poetic guy - very similar to Truman in many ways. It was terrifying - you're so right.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 7:11 PM

beth - ohhh, I love Ceileidh!! I'm so glad - I remember her struggles with not having a friend. She's definitely a one-girlfriend kind of person. It's hard for those people - they don't like to have big posses - they just want one good friend! I'm happy she found Janice. :) Janice is lucky.

Posted by: red at September 30, 2005 7:15 PM

Sheila, thank you - I was hoping that was it - and no, you didn't hurt my feelings. All's well. (I think he's a crappy actor, too.)

Posted by: Stevie at September 30, 2005 11:24 PM

I have also, at various times, referred to Jewel as a "snaggle-toothed bitch", Renee as a "pucker-faced phony" and Bobby Brown as a "disgusting pig". I'm so rarely mean in real life - but here? I let it all hang out. I despise Jewel. So I insult her however I can. It doesn't mean that I JUDGE all people who have crooked imperfect teeth.

Just so we're all clear on that.

Posted by: red at October 1, 2005 12:00 AM

thanks Beth..im gonna pass that on to my sister!!!

Posted by: Mitchell at October 1, 2005 10:00 AM

ummm....I'm going to interrupt, is that okay?

The first Capote book I read was "Breakfast at Tiffany's" I read the whole thing, one afternoon, sitting in a carrel at the Graduate Library, on a day when I was supposed to be reading articles on the influence of fire on prairies for a paper I was writing...but I started reading the book (which I had just bought at the campus bookstore) and couldn't stop.

I was crying pretty hard at the end. It's rare that a book affects me that way. (Luckily, it was one of those room-type carrels with a door).

I got kind of fascinated by the idea of an author who wrote like that - this was about the time that the Plimpton "biography by bits and pieces of interviews" came out - so I bought it and read it. (I know there are some Capote-heads out there who diss Plimpton's book but I found it very interesting.)

But those early photos of him - my gosh, those photos. So different from the bloated, debauched, barely-coherent parody-of-himself I had seen from time to time on televison. I get an intensely SAD feeling coming from the photos, as if there's something deep down there in him that is never fulfilled.

I seem to remember one of the people quoted in Plimpton's book as saying something on the order of women wanted to "mother" him - and I totally understand that. You want to scoop him up in your arms and somehow convince him that everything is going to be okay. (although, considering the picture of him with Marilyn, maybe that kind of physical contact wouldn't be the best thing...). But then again...if everything was "okay" with him, would he write so beautifully?

I don't know. I just find the early pictures of him incredibly moving.

I've read a fair amount of his other fiction ("Other Voices, Other Rooms" is amazing too, but very different from "Breakfast at Tiffany's") but have never read In Cold Blood...I'm sort of afraid I'd not be up to it, when the typical police-procedural novel, where I KNOW the characters are fictional, still makes me cringe and ache a little bit for how rotten the human race can be...

Posted by: ricki at October 1, 2005 10:02 AM

ricki - hahahaha of course it's okay!!

Thank you for sharing your memories of reading him. I know just what you mean.

In Cold Blood is a scary scary book. You can't put it down when you start it - and I honestly can't compare it to anything else. Maybe Crime and Punishment - it has that kind of in-depth look into the criminal mind - but what happened in the Clutter household is so awful, and so ... inhuman ... they literally were killed for nothing ... that it is a very difficult read.

I hope you read it some day.

Posted by: red at October 1, 2005 10:08 AM

From the confession of one of the murderers:

"Just before I taped him, Mr. Clutter asked me -- and these were his last words -- wanted to know how his wife was, if she was all right, and I said she was fine, she was ready to go to sleep, and I told him it wasn't long till morning, and how in the morning somebody would find them, and then all of it, me and Dick and all, would seem like something they dreamed. I wasn't kidding him. I didn't want to harm the man. I thought he was a very nice gentleman. Soft-spoken. I thought so right up to the moment I cut his throat."

Posted by: red at October 1, 2005 10:11 AM

In Cold Blood... it terrified me..i am not a person who gets a thrill or is even easily spooked by scary stories or movies..but i remember laying in my room on Ashland ave.( the apartment that Sheila and I never really moved into)and literally yelling out in fear. What a
book.

Posted by: Mitchell at October 1, 2005 10:19 AM

mtichell - hahahahaha

Ann Marie on our move-out day: "So do you guys want to take a minute - look around before you move out?"

You and me: "Nah. Whatever. Let's go."

hahahaha

Posted by: red at October 1, 2005 10:25 AM

so funny..that was the crazy move..with the guys who hadnt even started to pack when we showed up on Wayne to move in..."Okay..here's the deal!!", says Mitchell with great moral and righteous superiority. "Yes??",say the the kind and attentive friends of Mitchell. "I'm angry",says Mitchell lamely.

Posted by: Mitchell at October 1, 2005 7:18 PM

PS Janice and Ceileidh wear so much eye makeup these days that even Tammy Faye Baker would be embarrassed.

Posted by: Just1Beth at October 1, 2005 7:53 PM