May 14, 2006

David Thomson: Madonna

As requested, here is Thomson's vicious essay on Madonna. Now I'm not as angry with Madonna - except for her whole Kabbalah nonsense - and I've always loved her music. I find her fake-British persona EXTREMELY ANNOYING. Nothin' worse than a phony. I liked her better when she was an ambitious tramp from Detroit. Also, her latest photo shoot in W magazine is amaaaaaaazing.

But you want vitriol? Here is Thomson on Madonna. Speaking of vitriol, this essay is NICE compared to what he wrote on Michael Eisner.

I think Thomson's point about Madonna's disappointment ... is really really intuitive. I don't think anyone has ever used that word to describe her before: "disappointed" - I mean, who would? She's a millionaire. But I really think he's onto something there.

Essay on Madonna:

Imagine that you are watching something that especially moves you - your two-year-old child eating profiteroles; Joe Montana moving down the field; dawn at the Canyonn de Chelly; or the close of Ugetsu Monogatari, whatever. Your communion with this spectacvle is suddenly ruptured by what we will call a commercial break. This is all the more disturbing in that you did not know that what you were watching (the medium) was subject to such intrusions. You did not know the technology was yet available to come between you and the entire air and sky at Canyon de Chelly. But "they" have managed it, and the ad zips up every horizon. In that disaster, the ad -- I suggeset -- should be the insolent, in-your-face "attitude" of Ms. Ciccone. There is no need for a product. There is nothing in Madonna to be advertise, except for her ironic, deflecting contempt. She is an ad for advertising; she is the famousness of celebrity; and a fit vehicle for an unusual kind of serial-killing movie - one in which photography poisons the world.

You know the argument: guns, for example, are helpless things that only serve those who use them - guns may dispose of would-be rapists and murderers; guns permit the animals that provide meat to be killed swiftly; guns allow the exercise and pleasure of hunting; and armaments manufacturers build schools and hospitals.

Similarly, moving images have been a field for the dreams of Ozu, Hawks, Ophuls, etc. Photography has brought into being Lartigue, Ansel Adams, etc. But in addition, movie and photography are advertising, fashion spreads, and Madonn and Truth or Dare.

There is no going back, and no way of not wondering whether somewhere along the way wrong paths have been taken. I am reminded of the image of Warren Beatty in Truth or Dare, in dark glasses, trying to edge away, trying to defy the camera with nothingness, and eventually marveling that anyone could suppose this Madonna has any life "off" camera. It is one of the great tragic images in modern film, not least because Mr. Beatty has evidently recognized the horrendous question, what is he doing there? And what are we doing watching?

Perhaps a case can be made for Madonna as singer and dancer. But as an actress, she is the person who got out of the empty car -- I speak as someone who saw her on stage in David Mamet's Speed-the-Plow (where it was possible to lose sight and thought of her even as she walked across stage). But she hardly needs talent, so great is her "artistic integrity," and there are those ready to call her satire and her indifference the most audacious strokes of Dada. She has her defenders, and I suspect she loathes them even more than she scorns her enemies. She is disappointed about something, and hugely driven by resentment.

She appeared in A Certain Sacrifice, Desperately Seeking Susan and Vision Quest. She did a song for At Close Range, and she appeared in Shanghai Surprise -- both of which involved Sean Penn, to whom, briefly, she was married. She appeared in Who's That Girl, Bloodhounds of Broadway, Dick Tracy, Shadows and Fog and -- seemingly furious that Sharon Stone has so effortlessly mocked and surpassed her in Basic Instinct - in Body of Evidence, as an actress in Dangerous Game.

The burden did not lighten: she made appearances in Blue in the Face, Four Rooms, Girl 6 - and then all the ads said she was Evita - no matter that she managed hardly any emotional involvement, and again seemed incapable of understanding the nature of acting. Still, nothing before had been as fatuous as The Next Best Thing. Since then - as you may have heard - she has had a child with her new husband, the English director Guy Ritchie. Cross your fingers for the babe and ignore her siblings - The Hire: Star. She and her husband did a remake of Swept Away - and it was, wherever it played.

Posted by sheila
Comments

She sings often of her disappointment in the nature of celebrity: that she wanted it so badly but then when she got it, it wasn't all it was cracked up to be. It seems to me that stuff was all phoney though because she seems to thrive with the hassles of celebrity; she smiles when she's caught in her tracksuit coming in or out of the Kaballah Center. And more importantly, she does go underground and hide when she wants to. There were a few years in the late 1990s that I thought we heard the last of her; she didn't appear in magazines anymore, and she wasn't putting out records. So it is possible for her to not be so 'put upon' by people.

I do think she went after celebrity like her life depended on it. She's still living like that. Have you heard some of the lyrics on her newest album? They're the stuff of after-school special rock bands. Silly, trite, embarrassing to listen to. But no matter, she wants to tell us, once again, that she'a s Star.

I get the feeling Guy Ritchie is embarrassed. I don't know why - I have no proof of this, but there's something about him that screams, "I made a mistake."

Posted by: RightThinkingGirl at May 14, 2006 2:43 PM

RTG - that's a good point about her own admission of disappointment.

The disappointment I am aware of - that I am not sure SHE is aware of - is that she hasn't gotten good reviews as an actress. She seems continuously bitter about this - and makes snarky comments about the critics, etc. - and doesn't seem to take responsibility for the fact that acting is a CRAFT and she hasn't worked at it. She is wonderful in her own videos - I adore her stuff there - she has a million different looks, and personae - but that has not translated into a full-length film. She's too guarded, I think. She doesn't give herself up to the camera, freely - there's a wall there.

I think she's mad that she hasn't "made it" in that realm yet.

And I so agree about Guy Ritchie - he seems completely baffled by his own life. hahahaha

Posted by: red at May 15, 2006 12:18 PM

Do you think he writes letters to Kevin Federline twice a week? "For god's sake, man, throw yourself clear! Punch out!"

Posted by: Nightfly at May 15, 2006 1:19 PM

I think Guy Ritchie also fell prey to taking himself waaaaayyyyy too seriously. Like, dude: chill. Just do your thing. One hit does not a SUCCESS make (ask Billy Friedkin about that).

And about K-fed - For some reason, the almost daily tabloid photos of K-Fed coming out of random liquor stores, holding a new pack of smokes, please me to no end. It's so dysfunctional ... and the socks with the sandals are truly unforgivable ... but ... there he is, every day, comin' out of some 7-11 breakin' open some smokes, before he even gets to his car. AWESOME!

Posted by: red at May 15, 2006 1:23 PM

I always thought one of the reasons Madonna's fallen short as an actress is because she's too open about her life. I know everything about her. I've seen her naked. She's put it all out there. When I see a movie with her in it, I don't see a character. I see Madonna.

Posted by: Emily at May 15, 2006 1:33 PM

Yeah, I agree - but I also think she flat out doesn't know how to act. Her voice sounds phony, her body (which is actually quite supple) is awkward, and pose-y - she just isn't comfortable enough in her own skin to just play make-believe, and go with it. it's painful to watch her in Next Best Thing - not just in her big emotional scenes, but to watch her try to do something as simple as pouring a drink - she looks like ... an alien - an awkward mannequin-ish alien.

There's that great line at the end of The Seagull when Nina says, "I could tell I was a bad actress - I couldn't control my voice and I didn't know what to do with my hands on stage ..."

That reminds me of Madonna. NOT in her videos - where she's fascinating - but in films.

Posted by: red at May 15, 2006 1:52 PM

The funny thing is, you know her being a perfectionist and everything, she's probably hired the best acting coaches in the world to help her.

Posted by: Emily at May 15, 2006 1:57 PM

Ya can't buy talent!! Or maybe she hires some Kaballah groupie who just tells her what she wants to hear - and then, once again, she is shocked that she gets terrible reviews for this or that film.

Or she thinks her little red-string is going to somehow get her an Oscar someday. No way.

And I think she's afraid of what might actually be revealed about her if she actually ACTED. She can hide in her videos - she can create an IMAGE that protects her ... which is all well and good - but I think the whole acting thing is actually very very nervewracking for her - she doesn't get OFF on exhibitionism, like most actors do. She is an exhibitoinist - but she needs to CONTROL it, if that makes sense.

I saw the interview with Matt Matt Matt Matt Lauer - and she was kind of sweetly vulnerable, I felt bad for her, believe it or not - she seemed so uncomfortable in her own skin.

Posted by: red at May 15, 2006 2:03 PM

I feel bad for her because she seems clueless as to what a phoney jerk-off she's become. And I'm all for older women empowering themselves to still be sexy, but there's a way to do it gracefully and with dignity. Appearing in your underwear at the Coachella festival or whatever her last "shocker stunt!!!" was is not the way to do it. And it's irritating the way she's not content to stick to her niche of pop and disco. She has to go and try for the cutting edge appeal by appearing at a festival that is pretty much the epitome of anti-disco.

Posted by: Emily at May 15, 2006 2:11 PM

Madonna's strength, artistically speaking, is that she's a very good pop songwriter. Obviously, that's not enough to make her happy.

I do feel badly for her, even though she's in a dungeon of her own making. She sought fame so desperately and fiercely that she succeeded in finding it, only to learn like many before her that it's really no bargain. She could have taken the time to learn how to act, except she was already famous so there was no need.

She COULD just drop out, if it weren't for the fact that she can't. To drop out now would be to admit that her whole life has essentially been a farce - that the life she sought with such single-minded focus turned out to be a hollow shell. It's not the sort of truth that most people in that position can find the wisdom or strength to accept...

Posted by: MikeR at May 15, 2006 3:49 PM

It's amazing how instant the recognition of her awfulness sweeps over me.

She was in that James Bond movie, and she just turns to face the camera--AWFULBADOHMYGOD.

I flipped the channel, saw that Swept Away was on and figured "How bad could this be?". She walks into a hotel lobby opens her mouth and--DEAR LORD MAKE IT STOP.

She appeared in a sitcom (Friends I think) and she's sitting their saying her lines while looking at the floor with the occasional glance up to the other actor, an Acting 101 bad habit that neccesitates exclusion from Acting 102.

Yet, I watch Desperately Seeking Susan and she doesn't suck. Amazing.

Posted by: Scotter at May 15, 2006 4:17 PM

I'm so happy this is happeneing. I could NOT be happier.

Unlike you Sheila, I actually AM mad at Madonna. I don't like the way she treats other actors, I don't like the fact that she throws Kabbalah around like a plastic sex toy and then condemns every other celeb endorsing their own religion, and I don't like her damn accent.

I like her videos, and I like some of her music. She can't sing (which she's admitted to....which is still as see through as she is, as far as I'm concerened) and she can't act....at all.

It's not only that she can't act, but she refuses to even learn. She thinks if Cher can do it, why can't I?

Which by the way, she actually said to my pal that was in "Speed The Plow" with her in London.

She's a total farce, and a well paid hooker. If she'd admit to that, I'd bow down to her. And give her her well earned 10 bucks.

Posted by: Alex at May 15, 2006 4:20 PM

Alex - hahahaha I have been WAITING for you to show up!!

Let your anger flow! It's glorious.


How about his comment on Speed the Plow - that it was hard to even tell she was THERE as she walked across the stage?

Posted by: red at May 15, 2006 4:22 PM

Sadly, this David Thomson fellow actually thinks Renee Zellweger is kind of sweet and talented - and so I felt abandoned by him when I read the happy supportive entry about her.

I know that very few hold her in such contempt as I do. But history will prove me right. She will barely warrant a footnote. You mark my words!!!

Posted by: red at May 15, 2006 4:23 PM

I have to say that's the only difference between Madonna and Z. (I can't bear to write her name down). I think Madonna will be remembered for many, many years.

Z......squashed like a cockroach.

Would anyone care to hear another Madonna Story?

Posted by: Alex at May 15, 2006 4:26 PM

Uhm ... what do you think?

Posted by: red at May 15, 2006 4:27 PM

One night Maddie (as she likes to be called) came into rehearsal and left her script at home. They were still blocking the show, and everyone was still on book...meaning everyone was still learning their lines, and carrying around the script with them. When the director asked Maddie where her script was, she said:

"I thought it would be cool if I just added shit. You know. Like the Improvers do."

Posted by: Alex at May 15, 2006 4:30 PM

Oh boy.

Posted by: red at May 15, 2006 4:31 PM

Alex,
Even worse than her shoving her religion down everybody's throat is when she says stuff like people should "shut the @#$% up about Tom Cruise and his religion because they don't know what they're talking about and he's not hurting anyone."

Um, speaking of not knowing what you're talking about "Maddie,"....

Posted by: Emily at May 15, 2006 4:51 PM

Emily

That's really the thing I was talking about. Exactly.

Another Maddie Anecdote

Maddie was tired after a show. The critics had cruzified her, but she was soldiering on. She was Q. (my pal) to go out to dinner with her. When he declined, she said:

"I'm tired. I'm hungry. There's a take out place down the street. Can't you do anything except learn lines and walk across a stage?!"

Posted by: Alex at May 15, 2006 4:56 PM

"Cruzified".

heh. heh.

Posted by: Alex at May 15, 2006 4:58 PM

"And can't YOU do anything besides expect everyone in the world to ignore their own needs just to cater to your own?"

Posted by: Emily at May 15, 2006 5:02 PM

I met her in 1990. I was friends with her dancer Oliver (in Truth or Dare, he's the one who meets his dad at the Omni Hotel). It was after the first Blond Ambition show in the US and I was terrified. Earlier in the day I was driving down the street with a friend and we saw her jogging and my friend leans across me and screams, "MADONNA, WE LOVE YOU!" I was hoping she didn't recognize me - and I was just very uncomfortable being there at all. Oliver sat by me for a minute then was gone and I was just sitting on this sofa, feeling terrified, with nobody to talk to. A few minutes later, Oliver brought her over to me and I was hating myself so hard right then because I didn't know how to act or what to do. I was very young, awkward, in a room full of grown ups. I stood up. I am proud to say I stopped short of a curtsy. I shook her hand. I said, "I loved your show."

She said, "Thanks. Why are you over here by yourself?"

"I don't really know anybody."

And then Madonna said: "You're too pretty to be sitting here by yourself. Oliver, find her a friend, NOW."

She turned away and knocked over my bottle of water, which, in my haste, I had placed on the floor. She yelled, "Somebody clean that up!" and that was it.

I left about 2 minutes later. She was just such a force of personality, there was simply no room for me there.

Posted by: RTG at May 15, 2006 6:34 PM

I'm thinking... One of the reasons she's so good in her videos and so BAD in just about everything else, is that she's only comfortable acting like herself. The idea that she can cast herself into another personality is impossible for her to execute. But portraying herself is a cinch - so much so, in fact, that she has nearly lost the power to just be herself; she can only act like herself.

Posted by: Nightfly at May 15, 2006 8:36 PM

I love A League of their Own (one of my favorite movies) and I think Madonna does okay in that movie, but her character in that movie wasn't much of a stretch. But like Emily said, whenever I watch that movie I see Madonna..not May. I see Dottie Hansen, not Gina Davis...but Madonna is still Madonna.

Posted by: Laura at May 15, 2006 8:47 PM

Laura - you're right. She was adorable in League of Their Own. As a matter of fact, I think she could be great in small character parts - where she sticks close to her own self - People make entire acting careers out of doing that. She didn't have to CARRY that movie ... and she shouldn't try. She was background, she helped flesh it out. She was cute.

Posted by: red at May 15, 2006 10:15 PM

RTG - Oliver was such a hottie! So sweet, too - at least from what it looked like in that movie!

Posted by: red at May 15, 2006 10:16 PM

I think the reason she's good in her videos is because you only get to see her on screen for seconds at a time. It was one of the reasons she actualy kind of worked for me in "Evita". "Evita" wasn't filmed like a movie, it was filmed like a huge music video. Lots of short and small cut away moments with no sustained long close ups where she actually had to convey any kind of real emotion.

Her videos demand she look great (which she does in the right lighting) and perform quickly, which she's the queen of. No one can give "smarmy", "I'm hot", or "I'm horny" in 10 seconds like Maddie.

Posted by: Alex at May 16, 2006 3:38 PM