
Allison and I met up last night and saw the documentary Jonestown: the Life and Death of Peoples Temple. She and I both see a lot of documentaries - and you know, a lot of them suck ... but when you see a good one, you realize just what "good" means. This is one of the best documentaries I've ever seen - just in terms of HOW it told its story. Documentaries are tough ... they can be boring, or pretentious, or unclear ... It's hard to do one well.
First of all: there is no voiceover narration. None. It is a complete oral history. Which ... has got to be SO freakin' difficult - in terms of editing, and putting the whole thing together. But what a difference it makes - in terms of the experience of the audience. Because ... you're just IN it. The story is being told by those who were there. Who either knew him, or escaped, or had family members disappear, or journalists ... There was no omniscent voice, nobody telling us what to think or feel. Amazing. Very hard to do - and it is done nearly seamlessly here.
There are still a ton of questions left unanswered - you know: basically, like: WHAT THE HELL???? Questions like that. You know, you see Jim Jones' journey - his calling to be a minister - his charisma - his move to California - his socialism, his adopting a multi-racial family - his beliefs ... We hear from those who knew him along the way, those who were swept up in his racial harmony message, and those who ... were creeped out.
Even more fascinating were those who had downright WEIRD interactions with him - very early on - and STILL stayed on in the Temple.
There was inCREDIBLE footage of the services at the Peoples Temple in San Francisco. It was like they documented their entire lives - amazing, I had never seen a lot of it before. Apparently, as the filmmakers went out to interview survivors, or defectors ... many of them had stashed roles of film in their closets, stuff they hadn't looked at in years. It wasn't like it was in some public archive - these were people's home movies - but God, they just captured this mania, this ... Well, at one point, early on, I whispered to Allison, "That looks kinda fun." People were laughing, and swaying, and it looked like one of the most exciting church services I'd ever seen. Joyful. Black, white, together. One of the women who happened to be away from Jonestown on the day the suicide took place - said something like, "You know, you don't think you're joining a cult. Nobody decides, 'I'm going to join a cult.' You gather together, with people who seem to feel the same way you do about things ... you think that what you're joining could Never HURT you." And some of that footage from California DEFINITELY speaks to that. I could see that if I had been invited to a service like that, I might go back.
But - and this was left unexplained - then there was a shift. People were selling off their assets, and giving the money to the church. There were these Greyhound bus tours around the country, recruitment drives.
The footage of him doing a "faith healing" at one service - this woman getting up from a wheelchair and basically running around - and the entire place ERUPTING into absolute FRENZY - was so so weird. You just could feel the weirdness of it ... that something was deeply wrong here. Then one of the interviewed people said, "I heard later ... that that woman was actually one of his secretaries, nothing wrong with her at all."

Other impressions:
-- how sleazy he looked at all times. Like - ALWAYS with those skanky 70s porn-star sunglasses. There was one photograph of him sitting on the San Francisco Housing Committee - and they scanned down the table - and suddenly there he was - with the glasses - and the audience just erupted into laughter ... It was like a cartoon of a weirdo, sitting on this panel - with a bunch of people who looked normal. He had a vaguely Kim Jong-Il look to him. The black helmet hair, the eyes ALWAYS hidden ... and in the couple of moments you could see his eyes, they were alarmingly paranoid, gleaming whites, with this fire in them deep down. Insane eyes.
-- the fact that once they all got down to Jonestown - they had tapes of Jim Jones going on and on and on ... playing through loudspeakers ... all day long. So no matter where you were, you could hear him. I hadn't known that. And we heard snippets from those tapes. He was a big conspiracy theorist - convinced that people were coming after him - that the government was coming after him ... so the tapes were a lot about that. But the dulling effect that this would have on you ... and on your ability to remember that there was a big world out there, a world NOT in thrall of Jim Jones ... Classic brainwashing technique.
-- the footage of the kids playing on the swings, and laughing at the camera, in Guyana are almost heart-stoppingly terrible. You could hear people all through the audience just react to the footage, viscerally ... little moans, or gasps, hands over eyes ... Just every time you saw those laughing kids in the jungle. I wanted to scream RUN. They're innocent. They're lambs for the slaughter.
-- also the footage of the little old black ladies was pretty terrible too. You just could see their frailty, and also their hope. Here was a man who accepted them, a man who had created an interracial church, a utopia that so many of these people really believed in ... These little old ladies had handed over their money, their futures, their WILL to someone who turned out to be a psychotic drug-addled madman. But that was not what they signed up for. Little frail 75 year old black ladies, with thick glasses, and housedresses, throwing up their hands at the services, and whooping for joy. Horrible to look at, knowing the end.
-- Me being me - I wanted to get inside everybody's head and see what it was actually LIKE for them. Talk about Sophie's choice! How ... HOW ... do you just follow what this man says and pour cyanide down your baby's throat? What is it like to be that far gone?
-- This one man being interviewed just killed me - he was one of the few that survived - he and 5 others took off into the jungle. Now THAT is a story I also would love to hear. What? Where did they stay? Did they hook up with each other? Did they hide out? Did they go back to Jonestown and walk around? When were they rescued? Was there suspicion placed on them because they had survived? But anyway, this one guy - watched his wife give the baby KoolAid - you saw photographs of her, a beautiful smiling brown-haired woman ... and the baby ... you could barely look at the baby, it was too awful. And he said at one point - and you could tell he was holding back the tears - he said that during the long time when Jim was pouring out the Koolaid to the 900 plus people there - this guy described one of the moments he had as, "Everything was happening so fast ... It was almost like I wanted to shout, 'Just give me a MINUTE, please!'" A minute ... in the middle of this chaos. A minute to process. A minute to evaluate, to step back, to ask yourself, "Do I want to go this way? Is this right?" The fact that he STILL, after everything, was able to have that moment of thought like that was unbelievably terrifying to imagine. Because what that moment was was - his critical mind, his critical thinking jumping into play - after months, perhaps years, of lulling it to sleep. PROCESSING INFORMATION is what the brain does. But when you're in a cult - the mechanisms for that are cut off - the entire atmosphere is designed to STOP you from processing. But inside him, deep inside - he was crying out for a "minute". His humanity, his MIND ... still there. Looking around. Thinking ... NO. Meanwhile, his wife killed their baby and then herself. And he escaped into the jungle. How on earth does one go on.
-- One of the survivors said, "Even though it was a tragedy ... I still am proud that we at least tried to save the world." Okay. The man who said this? Lost his wife, his son and daughter, his mother, his 2 nieces ... He lost the majority of his family, all of whom swilled down the Kool-Aid when Jim Jones told them to - and he STILL seemed vaguely proud of what they tried to do BEFORE that. That is a level of denial that I cannot begin to understand - and this is also one of the keys to how cults work. They create such a web of culpability - that it is nearly impossible to back out of it. Because then you would just have to admit how mistaken you were, and that you were DUPED. And nobody wants to do that - especially when your entire family has committed suicide because some helmet-head wearing porn-star glasses tells them to. Unbelievable.
-- The sound of him urging to drink the Kool-Aid quicker - "Quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly" is something that will haunt me forever. And you can hear screams in the background. The whole thing is on audio tape.
-- The footage of the shootout at the plane was also chilling - something I had never seen before. One of the cameramen filming the guys in the truck - he's obviously crouching under the plane with his camera - and suddenly the camera goes to static. Dead. Dude is shot as he's filming. Filming his own murderers. A couple of stills of all of the dead bodies lying around this rickety plane. And unbelievably - a couple of the people there (a journalist, an aide to the congressman, a sound guy) survived. They all were interviewed. The congressman's aide (who had not wanted to go to Guyana, she had a really bad feeling about it) lay beside the plane pretending to be dead. The gunmen walked around, checking for survivors, and apparently shot her at point blank range. And yet still - she lived. Again, unanswered questions for me: What then?? How did she get out? They were in the middle of the jungle. 900 people were sprawled dead 6 miles away. What happened next?? [Here's an indepth article that tells what happened next. But the film doesn't get into that.]
-- One woman said (and my heart went out to her, it really did) - she was weeping - she said, "When I went down to Guyana - and saw the utopia there - the working together - all families together - I felt like it was heaven on earth. I thought it was heaven. And now I can't believe in heaven anymore." Tears are in my eyes right now as I type this.
It's a wrenching piece of work. Really really well done.
Here's the trailer. Be warned. It's graphic.
Posted by sheilaJonestown was the first "news tragedy" that I remember being able to process. All others before had just gone over my head, even as I heard my parents talk about them. But this? This sunk in.
I couldn't get enough of the coverage, I guess, because I -- at 13 -- was at that age when you realize the world is sometimes an ugly, ugly place. The cover of Time with the picture of the bloated bodies of women and children -- I can still see it today.
(Leo Ryan's [wasn't that his name? The congressman?] daughter later joined a cult, I think. Children of God, or something. Joined it AFTER a cult killed her dad. It boggles the mind.)
Posted by: Lisa at November 2, 2006 4:20 PMI know that one of his other daughters became a spokesperson against cults - I wonder if she joined a cult, then got out, and went on to speak out against them???
You're right, but that's a different daughter. I looked it up on Rick Ross's site. One daughter joined a cult, another one fights cults.
I'd hate to be at their Thanksgivings.
Posted by: Lisa at November 2, 2006 5:11 PMHere's the link:
http://www.rickross.com/reference/jonestown/jonestown25.html
Posted by: Lisa at November 2, 2006 5:12 PMWow - I actually remember seeing her sister Patricia on Nightline or something like that - when Co$ took over Cult Awareness Network. I didn't realize that was her, of course.
Good lord ... what a rupture in the family.
So - Children of God? Otherwise known as "The Family"? I think that was the cult that River and Joaquin Phoenix (and all the rest of them) grew up in.
Posted by: red at November 2, 2006 5:15 PMI think so. Don't quote me on it, but I think that's what I heard.
Did you happen to watch 48 Hours on Saturday night? (Hahahahaha, like you're home on Saturday night! Only us pitiful married people are!) It was a story on Co$.
Apparently these people who'd been Co$ since the 80s had a paranoid schizophrenic son who they wouldn't allow to be treated by a psychiatrist. Long story short, he got bad psychotic and killed his mother. Stabbed her like 70 times.
I was so wishing you and Emily were watching it. Your brain would have exploded.
(It's on 48 Hours's site at cbsnews.com if you want to take a look.)
Posted by: Lisa at November 2, 2006 5:19 PMLisa, what would we all do without Rick Ross?
Allison and I went out after the movie, and we talked about him and his work quite a bit.
Posted by: red at November 2, 2006 5:20 PMLisa - ha! I don't think I was home ... I think I was at a play.
But Allison taped the show for me (ha) - she knew I had to see it!
What amazes me is that 48 Hours had the cajones to do a critical piece on Co$ ... it just (to me) shows that the power of this org. is crumbling. They are obviously no longer in charge of their own publicity - but still ... You gotta believe Co$ is gonna sue the crap out of them!
I'm really psyched that they went ahead with the show - knowing that Co$ would come after them.
Posted by: red at November 2, 2006 5:22 PMGoogle-fu comes to the rescue.
I see three daughters of Leo Ryan. Pat is the anti-cult woman, Shannon (Jasmine) joined a cult, and Erin is a legislative aid. (http://www.rickross.com/reference/jonestown/jonestown25.html)
Posted by: melissa at November 2, 2006 5:24 PMsorry... late info. (it wasn't there a few minutes ago, I swear!) :-)
Posted by: melissa at November 2, 2006 5:25 PMmelissa - Yup, Lisa just posted that link, actually.
Seriously, Rick Ross is indispensable!!
Posted by: red at November 2, 2006 5:26 PMI saw the trailer online and was really chilled by it - the whole documentary sounds equally fascinating and terrifying. So naturally I want to watch it :-)
Posted by: Cee at November 2, 2006 10:59 PMI read Seductive Poison by Deborah Layton. She was one of his closest followers. She escaped shortly before the awful ending.
She said:
"We had embarked on a peaceful exodus into a "land of freedom", only to see our lives in the Promised Land turn into a dreary prison camp existence.
[...]
People do not knowingly join "cults" that will ultimately destroy and kill them. It is the most innocent and naive who find themselves entrapped. It is usually only gradually that a group turns into or reveals itself as a cult, becomes malignant, but by then it is often too late."
Her story is chilling because there was this system of enforcement, which she helped to perpetuate herself. Jones sent on her plane trips by herself to launder money - and she still stayed in the cult. She could have left but she stayed. It's the father figure/family hook, and the hope of a better life - they get so dependent and it's like they regress.
I'd like to see that movie. Reading about the congressman and what happened always gets to me. In her book Layton describes these drills they would have. Jones would send some of his people into the jungle near their camp at night and they'd fire off their guns. Then he'd say that it was their enemies and wake everyone at the camp for the drill - the people in the camp thought they were really hearing enemy fire and that they were being threatened.
Catez - wow, thanks for all that. Layton was interviewed quite extensively in this documentary and I do want to read her book. There seemed to be a siege mentality - or Jones had one - like they were about to be attacked at all times ... which didn't seem to be the case (maybe eventually it would have gotten to that point - but it hadn't happened yet) - and Congressman Ryan was just down on a "fact-finding" mission.
Also - the fact that Jones was threatened by the fact that 20 people wanted to leave ... I mean, 20 is not a large number. But to him it felt like a house of cards ... NO ONE could leave.
Not to be too psychobabble-y here - but it seems like there was some serious abandonment issues going on with him.
Posted by: red at November 3, 2006 6:50 AMOh, and Catez - wasn't Layton's brother one of the gunmen at the airfield?
Posted by: red at November 3, 2006 6:54 AMHow did she escape, by the way?? She was in Guyana, correct? Did she sneak off the compound and somehow escape? Or was she on a mission to the nearest city in Guyana for food, or supplies - and somehow defected from there?
Posted by: red at November 3, 2006 8:16 AMI'm no expert, but it seems to me, there are just so many people out there searching and longing for a connection to a community; the want and need to be loved, accepted and affirmed. That that basic human need goes unfulfilled can leave some people so vulnerable. It's like biker gangs too. I don't want to sound condescending, but it's groups like that prey on misfits, for lack of a better word.
Or in another direction, we wonder why people who are in abusive relationships don't leave when it's so obvious to everyone else on the 'outside.'
Posted by: "dave" at November 3, 2006 12:02 PMhttp://www.amazon.com/Before-Frost-Henning-Mankell/dp/0676977634
Before the Frost is a Swedish mystery that features a character who escaped from Jonestown that sounds very like the man you described. It wasn't a bad read.
Posted by: Carrie at November 3, 2006 12:33 PMInteresting exchanges on the whole Jonestown mess. And a formative event for many people, as the comments suggest. Consider how the phrase "drink the kool-aid" has entered our everyday language. (Imagine what the Kool-aid corporate-image yoyos have experienced in the intervening decade...)
Posted by: Justine at November 3, 2006 3:42 PMCarrie - Oooh! Thanks, girl - I will totally check that out.
Posted by: red at November 3, 2006 3:49 PM"Not to be too psychobabble-y here - but it seems like there was some serious abandonment issues going on with him."
Oh definitely - excessively controlling personalities do.
I have to shoot out the door - more later.
Posted by: Catez at November 5, 2006 4:52 PMOK - I'm back.
"Or was she on a mission to the nearest city in Guyana for food, or supplies - and somehow defected from there?"
It's ages since I read the book - I borrowed it from the library and typed out he part I quoted to keep as a note - because I thought it briefly got the gist of the cult issue. From what I remember she went into the nearest city to do something for Jones - with some others. And she contacted some-one from the embassy. She was staying in this house with other cult members. And this guy from the embassy was organising a way she could meet him and get on a plane out of there. He Called her at he house and left what he thought was an innocent message - and she feaked because that would be enough to tip them off.
Can't remember all the details exactly - but she left, got to this guy, he put her on a plane and she was out.
Then back in the States her story was very influential in the Congressman's decision to go down there - her story and some concerned parents.
Can't remember about her brother at all. What I remember is what impacted me - her escape, her utter fear that she would be caught and that they would do to her what they did to one of the other women at Jonestown - they drugged her so massively that she was left like a vegetable lying in a room all day. I mean they destroyued this woman. She was terrified of that being done to her. And after - when she heard about the deaths - that she knew so many of those people and her grief.
"There seemed to be a siege mentality - or Jones had one - like they were about to be attacked at all times"
They thought they were being attacked all the time. Jones would have the gunshots being fired in the jungle, and he'd send men out to "fight" them - who just went and fired their guns in the air - and then the shooting would stop and they all thought they'd beaten the enemy agents trying to attack the compound. Incredibly deceitful on Jones part - but they believed they really were being attacked all the time. Except for the very inner circle people who knew it was fake.
Jones was deluded - but not to the point that he really believed what he was saying - he lied and deceived knowingly to keep things going. And he didn't want people to leave because they would talk - and he was doing some really shonky stuff by that time.