“He Did a Fabulous Job with Presley, You Know.” – Howard Hawks on Colonel Tom Parker

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In 1976, 80-year-old American director Howard Hawks was interviewed by the staff of Wide Angle I:2, including Peter Lehman, Marilyn Campbell, and Lynne Goddard. In his introduction, Peter Lehman writes:

At age eighty, Mr. Hawks is an extremely alert, lively man. He speaks eagerly, not only about the wealth of his past experiences, but about contemporary situations and his own future plans as well. Those future plans include several projects for new films.

Howard Hawks is my favorite director of all time, and I spent the weekend researching him for something I’ve been working on. In my research, I came across this interview. Now, Hawks told the same stories, in almost the same way, for about 40 years straight. He was clearly a brilliant raconteur, and if he always comes out as #1 in his stories, then that just makes him more human. Besides, he usually WAS #1 and you don’t get points for false humility in show biz. I never get tired of hearing the same stories (how he helped Wayne work against his penchant for “corniness”, how he “discovered” Lauren Bacall – or, his wife did, how he came up with the idea to turn the characters in The Front Page to a divorced man and woman, and all the rest). But here, I discovered a small anecdote which had escaped my notice up until now. Why I am interested in this should be immediately obvious.

Remember, the year is 1976.

After pages and pages of discussion of Josef von Sternberg, and Wayne and John Ford, suddenly we come to this:

PETER LEHMAN: You try many things than many directors would … all these things we’re talking about. Many directors would be afraid to think of having a cowboy recite a poem to another cowboy, but it works when you do it, like some of these comic things we’re talking about.

HOWARD HAWKS: Well, you search and search for an idea that will make a character a little different from all those others or you’ll fall into the same thing. People said, “You’re nuts for putting Ricky Nelson in Rio Bravo.” He added about two million to the gross. Over in Japan they had Ricky Nelson in the middle of the posters, great big ones, over at the side were Wayne and Dean Martin.

MARILYN CAMPBELL: Were you ever asked to do a movie with Elvis Presley?

HOWARD HAWKS: The Colonel [Tom Parker, Presley’s manager] asked me to, but I said, “I don’t think I’d be any good. You’d better get somebody else.”

LYNNE GODDARD: Why did you think you wouldn’t be any good? Because you didn’t relate to his kind of music at all?

HOWARD HAWKS: No, to the type of picture.

LYNNE GODDARD: They were always very zany, weren’t they?

HOWARD HAWKS: Corny.

PETER LEHMAN: They were corny, right. They were mostly very …

LYNNE GODDARD: They were very romantic and he would burst into song and then …

HOWARD HAWKS: John Ford was the only person who could do corn good.

PETER LEHMANN: Did you know the Colonel by the way?

HOWARD HAWKS: Oh, he was working at the same studio I was.

PETER LEHMANN: They worked mostly with MGM, didn’t they?

HOWARD HAWKS: No, they worked all around. This was over at Paramount. Or else he would just happen to be over there and we’d just start talking, you know. He did a fabulous job with Presley, you know. Hell, Presley is still going. He’s a little lame, he can’t do quite as many twists as he did but …

PETER LEHMANN: I saw him a couple of years ago. He sounded very good still. You probably never cared for him in the first place but he’s still going very strongly.

HOWARD HAWKS: Oh, you never know why you put something in a movie. Except I always figure if I don’t like it I can always cut it out.

Hard to picture Howard Hawks at the helm of an Elvis Presley movie, but it’s certainly something I can enjoy fantasizing about.

Go check out my conversation with Kent Adamson about the Colonel and Elvis. Our take is a bit different from the “oh, he held Elvis back” narrative. We agree with Hawks: he did a fabulous job with Presley. And Presley delivered.

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7 Responses to “He Did a Fabulous Job with Presley, You Know.” – Howard Hawks on Colonel Tom Parker

  1. Kent says:

    Indeed. Indeed. Bravo Howard Hawks! Rio Bravo!

  2. Funny thing is, I always thought Elvis would have been great in the Ricky Nelson role in Rio Bravo…Not that Ricky wasn’t great, but as far as Elvis having a different kind of movie career (the one he probably dreamed about) that always felt like a missed opportunity.

    Curious to know if the whole interview is online? Would love to read the rest, especially concerning John Ford…

  3. Hey thanks Sheila. I will definitely put that on my want list!

  4. Fiddlin Bill says:

    From what I’ve read (not nearly up to what you’ve read) about Elvis’ ambitions as an actor and/or “movie star,” Elvis felt that he’d never been taken seriously enough by a director, apart from one or two pictures (surely Love Me Tender was “serious,” though it falls into the end of one era of western, and you look around its margins and find Left Handed Gun and One Eyed Jacks, etc.; surely Jailhouse Rock was serious). But here’s a thought experiment: what if the Hawks who directed Bacall in Have and Have Not had directed Elvis in a picture? He likely would have found things that would have enhanced Elvis’ stature in the flickers. And it’s too bad Elvis wasn’t in Rio Bravo. For that matter, look what the flickers did for Dean Martin, another unlikely candidate when you think about it.

    • sheila says:

      That’s one of the reasons I picked this particular duet from Viva Las Vegas, because it has in it some Hawks-ian elements. The feisty woman who doesn’t fall at the man’s feet, the enjoyment in the battle of wits/ego that encapsulates the battle of the sexes for Howard Hawks. I think it would have been very interesting! Elvis was awesome in most of his movies – but he’s especially good when he’s put up against something to fight against. That’s why Viva Las Vegas is so good – because Ann-Margret was as strong and almost as compelling as he was. Same with some of the later films – Live a Little Love a Little, which I wrote about here. Elvis would have been great in more screwball stuff – but, you know, it was the 60s – screwball had turned into something different then.

      And yes, I love the story of Hawks casting Dean Martin in Rio Bravo, and how he knew Dean would work his ass off on that part. Wonderful actor, Dean Martin!!

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