{"id":1835,"date":"2004-10-27T14:11:01","date_gmt":"2004-10-27T18:11:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/?p=1835"},"modified":"2015-11-07T08:26:59","modified_gmt":"2015-11-07T13:26:59","slug":"the-pros-and-cons-of-smotheration","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/?p=1835","title":{"rendered":"The Pros and Cons of &#8220;Smotheration&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In waiting for the game to start last night &#8230; (I was at a bar.  I am very much looking forward to next week when I don&#8217;t spend literally HOURS every night in a bar).  Two guys were sitting next to me.  They were friends, obviously.  They both had on backwards baseball caps, and they were chowing down on a plate of buffalo wings.  From comments they dropped, I gathered they were Yankee fans, and just couldn&#8217;t get enthusiastic about the Series.<\/p>\n<p>I admit that I eavesdropped.  Blatantly.  I had to hold myself back from taking out a pen, then and there, to transcribe the whole thing.<\/p>\n<p>I will just list the facts here, as in: here is what they said.  I will do my best not to editorialize or interpret.  Although I will probably have to add little notes indicating HOW they said certain things, my interpretation of their tone.<\/p>\n<p>For whatever reason, this male-bonding conversation really <i>got <\/i>to me.  It touched me.  It seemed quite deep &#8211; although, being the type of guys who wear backwards baseball caps and eat a pile of buffalo wings &#8211; they aren&#8217;t going to speak in psycho-babble, or over-analyze themselves, or be touchy-feely.  But it was DEEP SHIT, nonetheless.<\/p>\n<p>I had to restrain myself from leaning over and saying, &#8220;I have been listening to this whole thing, and I just love both of you.  I wish you both well.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>From what I could gather, here&#8217;s the situation:<\/p>\n<p>These guys are old close friends.  And one of them has started to date a girl (whom I will refer to as Katie) &#8211; and it looks like it&#8217;s getting pretty serious &#8211; and so &#8230; there seemed to be some issues around this.  But remember &#8211; they&#8217;re old close friends.<\/p>\n<p>I tuned into their conversation at the point where the friend was saying, &#8220;Listen, I really like Katie, but &#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Try to follow it if you can.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Listen, I really like Katie, but &#8230; and &#8230; I probably have no right to say this to you &#8230; but &#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;What?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I guess I feel like &#8230; Listen, she&#8217;s <i>great<\/i>, okay?  I just &#8230;&#8221;  (long silence &#8211; My heart went out to the guy speaking &#8211; I thought:  Come on, dude, just say what&#8217;s on your mind.  Ooops.  I&#8217;m editorializing.  I&#8217;ll stop now.)  &#8220;I just guess I feel like she smothers you sometimes.  Like &#8230; there&#8217;s some smotheration going on.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Yeah.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You know what I mean?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Yeah, man, I know.  I know &#8230; I guess I kinda like it, though.&#8221;  (Silence.)  &#8220;Like &#8230; it&#8217;s just so <i>nice<\/i> hanging out with her.  It&#8217;s so <i>nice<\/i> &#8230; I can <i>relax<\/i> with her, you know?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Then came a conversation about the problems Katie may be having with another friend of theirs &#8211; who is a girl.  Possibly an ex-girlfriend?  I don&#8217;t know.<\/p>\n<p>Guy dating Katie said, &#8220;I&#8217;ve tried to explain to her that &#8230; Heather is just a friend &#8230; and &#8230; we never &#8230; You know.  Heather and me never &#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Of course not.  No, it&#8217;s like &#8230; Yeah, I get what you&#8217;re saying.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Like &#8211; she doesn&#8217;t need to be &#8230; nervous about Heather.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Right.  Like &#8211; you&#8217;re not gonna cheat on her or whatever.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;No.  Totally.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Like I said &#8211; that&#8217;s kind of what I mean.  And I like Katie too, I really do &#8211; she&#8217;s a lot of fun &#8211; but it&#8217;s the smotheration thing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Silence.<\/p>\n<p>Guy dating Katie said, &#8220;I know.  I know.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Cool.  Just so long as you <i>know<\/i>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Still, though &#8211; it&#8217;s just that &#8211; if I have to <i>choose <\/i>&#8211; and I hope it doesn&#8217;t come to that &#8211; but if I have to choose &#8211; I choose Katie.  Because &#8230; yeah, I know, she kind of smothers, and stuff &#8230; but I&#8217;m tellin&#8217; ya &#8211; it&#8217;s just so <i>nice<\/i> being with her.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>(I thought to myself:  I bet he ends up marrying that girl.)<\/p>\n<p>His friend thought about this for a long time.  Then said, quietly, &#8220;I&#8217;d like to have a girl like that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Later on &#8230; they came back to the &#8220;smotheration&#8221; issue.<\/p>\n<p>The friend (the one who was concerned about the smothering) started talking about HIS love-life.  Which sounds very frustrating.<\/p>\n<p>He had gone on a couple of dates with one girl.  And that day she had emailed him, and all the email said was:  &#8220;Do you think I&#8217;m totally empty inside?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Jesus.  I have a message for women who send emails like that:  DON&#8217;T.<\/p>\n<p>The guy said to his friend, &#8220;What the fuck am I supposed to say to that?  &#8216;<i>Do you think I&#8217;m totally empty inside<\/i>?&#8217;  What?  I was going to email her back with a bunch of question marks &#8230; but then I thought &#8211; fuck it, I don&#8217;t even know what the hell she&#8217;s talking about.  I mean &#8230; I&#8217;ve called her a couple times &#8230; but &#8211; I don&#8217;t want to deal with that shit.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Long pause.  They both sat there, thinking.  Not speaking.  Then the same guy said, seriously, &#8220;What do you think that means &#8211; &#8216;Do you think I&#8217;m empty inside&#8217;?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Friend (the one dating Katie said): &#8220;Oh who the fuck knows.  One of her friends probably said something to her about whatever, and now she&#8217;s all fucking dramatic about everything.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Yeah, but what the hell do I have to say about her being empty inside?  Jesus.  She&#8217;s nuts.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Then the same guy started talking about a semi-&#8220;relationiship&#8221; he was having with some other chick named Meg &#8230; and I felt bad for him.  (Especially in light of the revealing moment when he said to himself, &#8220;I&#8217;d like to have a girl like that.&#8221;)  The situation appears to be:  he is really into Meg.  They have a great time together, whenever they get together.  But it&#8217;s really difficult for them to hook up, there&#8217;s a lot of phone tag, etc.<\/p>\n<p>He said, &#8220;Like &#8230; she&#8217;s really really busy.&#8221;  (Like my friend Jackie has said to me before, &#8220;No one&#8217;s ever <i>that<\/i> busy.  If they&#8217;re into you, they&#8217;ll call you, they&#8217;ll make it happen.&#8221;)<\/p>\n<p>He said, &#8220;I respect the fact that she doesn&#8217;t have a lot of time &#8230; I don&#8217;t want to push or whatever &#8230; but still &#8230; I guess it&#8217;s that she&#8217;s really really independent.&#8221;  (I&#8217;m thinking to myself: She&#8217;s giving him the &#8220;I&#8217;m really busy and I&#8217;m really independent&#8221; line??  Poor guy!  He deserves better, he definitely does.)<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, he&#8217;s talking to his friend, who is currently being &#8220;smothered&#8221; by his girlfriend &#8211; but his friend obviously likes it &#8211; and doesn&#8217;t feel &#8220;smothered&#8221; at all.  What his friend feels is taken care of.  This girl gives a crap enough to let him know she&#8217;s interested, she&#8217;s available, etc.  She doesn&#8217;t leave him out hanging.<\/p>\n<p>Okay.  Interpretation over.<\/p>\n<p>The guy kept talking about this Meg person, &#8220;And whenever we hang out &#8211; it&#8217;s great, you know?  It&#8217;s totally great.  But for the past couple weeks &#8211; I haven&#8217;t been able to see her &#8211; but she text-messages me all the time.  I got one from her last night &#8230; it&#8217;s just kind of frustrating &#8230; cause I don&#8217;t want to be &#8230; like &#8230; I respect the fact she&#8217;s busy and all that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>(I wanted to lean in and say, &#8220;No one is ever <i>that<\/i> busy.  If she&#8217;s into you, she&#8217;d find a way.&#8221;)<\/p>\n<p>But then came the coolest part:<\/p>\n<p>Katie, the famous &#8220;smothering&#8221; Katie, arrived.  Her boyfriend got up, gave her a big hug, a kiss &#8230; and made her sit on his bar stool.  She struck me as a cool woman.  She didn&#8217;t just talk to her boyfriend, she also engaged in conversation with his friend.<\/p>\n<p>And then &#8211; the boyfriend left to go make a phone call or something &#8211; and Katie and the other guy started talking.<\/p>\n<p>And within 2 or 3 exchanges, he started telling her about this &#8220;independent busy&#8221; woman.  Like &#8230; he may think Katie smothers his friend, but there&#8217;s also something in her that he can trust.  I LOVED that.<\/p>\n<p>Sorry.  I am interpreting this like a fiend, I realize.  I can&#8217;t help it!!<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, I heard him saying the same things &#8211; only it was a <i>tiny<\/i> bit different because he was talking to a girl, and not a guy.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know &#8230; she text messages me and stuff &#8230; and keeps saying she wants to get together &#8230; but &#8230; Do you think that means she doesn&#8217;t really want to see me?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Why did I find all of this so touching?  I was bored waiting for the game to start.  I got very emotionally involved.<\/p>\n<p>Katie took kind of a hard-line.  &#8220;Pick up the phone and call her. Say to her,  &#8216;I want to see you.&#8217;  Just do it!  You say you really like her?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Totally.  You met her that one night we went to blah blah blah, member?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Wait &#8230; which one?&#8221;  Katie thought and then said, &#8220;Oh!  Right!  Yeah, she was great!  Okay, so be persistent.  Call her.  Do it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>(Go, Katie.  You tell &#8216;im.)<\/p>\n<p>Katie and the boyfriend eventually went out to put their car into a parking garage, I believe &#8230; leaving the friend by himself at the bar.<\/p>\n<p>And I shit you not:  the guy dialed someone on the phone.  I wasn&#8217;t paying attention anymore &#8230; the game was almost started.<\/p>\n<p>But then I heard him say, &#8220;Meg &#8211; hey.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I thought to myself: Meg!  Oh!  He&#8217;s calling her right now!!  The famously &#8220;busy&#8221; Meg!  Katie&#8217;s words helped him make the call!<\/p>\n<p>And, BLESS HIM, he leapt right in.  &#8220;Listen &#8211; I&#8217;d like to take you out to dinner this week.  Would you like to do that?&#8221;  He listened to her response.  &#8220;You would?  Great &#8230; uh &#8230; how about Thursday?  I could pick you up after &#8230;&#8221;  Meg made some comment.  &#8220;Great.  7:30 it is.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Good work, my good man.  <i>Good work<\/i>. And I can see why Katie is beloved by her boyfriend, even though she might &#8220;smother&#8221; him.  A common-sense girl, that one.<\/p>\n<p>I probably haven&#8217;t described why I eavesdropped on this &#8230; why I found it so wonderful to listen to.  I guess I ended up having great affection for all of the people involved (even &#8220;busy independent&#8221; Meg, even the girl who thinks it&#8217;s appropriate to send an email to a guy she&#8217;s only gone on a couple of dates with asking if he thinks she&#8217;s empty inside&#8221; &#8211; yes, even her.)<\/p>\n<p>It was a brief glimpse into a friendship, a situation &#8230; and I liked it.  I liked them all.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In waiting for the game to start last night &#8230; (I was at a bar. I am very much looking forward to next week when I don&#8217;t spend literally HOURS every night in a bar). 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