{"id":4998,"date":"2006-06-16T10:29:26","date_gmt":"2006-06-16T14:29:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/?p=4998"},"modified":"2015-05-22T07:40:26","modified_gmt":"2015-05-22T11:40:26","slug":"bloomsday-the-woman-word-in-chinese","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/?p=4998","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;the woman word&#8221; in Chinese"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>YES I SAID:  TRANSLATING ULYSSES INTO CHINESE<br \/>\n<i>by Jim Di<\/i><br \/>\n<i>Poets and Writers<\/i>, November\/December 2002<\/p>\n<p>Joyce&#8217;s deliberately repeated use of <i>yes<\/i>, as what he called &#8220;the woman word&#8221;, in the final episode to characterize Molly&#8217;s mentality is at odds with the genius of the Chinese language, which requires lexical adjustments to express the multitude of ideas carried by the English <i>yes<\/i>.  There is not one Chinese term, much less the standard &#8220;counterpart&#8221; &#8212; <i>shi-de<\/i> &#8212; that can in a Chinese version of the novel more or less consistently replace <i>yes<\/i>.  This contrasts with such European language counterparts as <i>si, oui, ja<\/i>, and so on, in their versions.  If I followed Joyce&#8217;s lead and repeated one Chinese term in all the eighty-odd occasions in the chapter where <i>yes<\/i> is found in the original, I would most certainly ruin the end text with expressions that would sound idiotic to most Chinese readers.  Joyce&#8217;s demand for emphatic repetition runs headon into a conflict with the genius of the Chinese language.<\/p>\n<p>After a long and careful study I decided that a large number of Mollys&#8217; <i>yes<\/i>es do not serve as much more than a kind of emphatic affirmation of the speaker&#8217;s own sincerity.  There is hardly any other substantive content to those <i>yes<\/i>es, so it is possible to choose a Chinese term of affirmation that sounds natural on such occasions.  This decision meant fewer repetitions of Joyce&#8217;s <i>yes<\/i>, but enough to produce an impression of a habitual locution in someone&#8217;s mouth, as &#8220;the woman word&#8221; must do.<\/p>\n<p>The repeatable term of emphatic affirmation I chose is <i>zhen-de<\/i> &#8212; &#8220;really&#8221; &#8212; which is a kind of habitual locution with some speakers of Chinese.  It is repeated dozens of times in my translation of the last episode, and like Joyce&#8217;s <i>yes<\/i>, it does stand both at the beginning and the end of it, conspicuously but quite naturally.  At the same time, the other <i>yes<\/i>es are rendered flexibly, each in a way that suits its particular context.  Some of the <i>yes<\/i>es in the final passage of the episode, for instance, involve the very serious matter of accepting a marriage proposal, for which neither <i>shi-de<\/i> nor <i>zhen-de<\/i> will suffice.  My rendering for that is <i>yuan-yi<\/i>, a formal term that means &#8220;I will&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Yet in its Chinese form the pronoun <i>I<\/i> is understood, and the ending of the novel becomes &#8220;yuan-yi wo yuan-yi zhen-de.&#8221;  I believe this carries the same emphasis as Joyce&#8217;s original <i>yes I will Yes.<\/i> &#8212; which in fact happens to be its only back-translation.<\/p>\n<p>\n<iframe style=\"width:120px;height:240px;\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&#038;OneJS=1&#038;Operation=GetAdHtml&#038;MarketPlace=US&#038;source=ac&#038;ref=tf_til&#038;ad_type=product_link&#038;tracking_id=thesheivari-20&#038;marketplace=amazon&#038;region=US&#038;placement=0195033817&#038;asins=0195033817&#038;linkId=HUM7OIIBJ5TZL7IO&#038;show_border=true&#038;link_opens_in_new_window=true\"><br \/>\n<\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>YES I SAID: TRANSLATING ULYSSES INTO CHINESE by Jim Di Poets and Writers, November\/December 2002 Joyce&#8217;s deliberately repeated use of yes, as what he called &#8220;the woman word&#8221;, in the final episode to characterize Molly&#8217;s mentality is at odds with &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/?p=4998\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[28],"tags":[146,566],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4998"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4998"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4998\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":102812,"href":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4998\/revisions\/102812"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4998"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4998"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4998"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}