{"id":9864,"date":"2010-02-25T10:16:17","date_gmt":"2010-02-25T15:16:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/?p=9864"},"modified":"2020-03-30T13:51:57","modified_gmt":"2020-03-30T17:51:57","slug":"johnny-guitar-a-live-text-conversation-between-mitchell-and-myself","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/?p=9864","title":{"rendered":"<i>Johnny Guitar<\/i>: a live text conversation between Mitchell and myself"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"johnny-Guitar.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/johnny-Guitar.jpg\" width=\"334\" height=\"500\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\nThe wonderful Bill has some <a href=\"http:\/\/wwwbillblog.blogspot.com\/2010\/02\/cap-syool-reviews-enjoy-them-now.html\">capsule reviews here<\/a>, and one of the films is <i>Johnny Guitar<\/i>.  (Gotta love in the poster above how the headline is &#8220;Joan&#8217;s Greatest Triumph&#8221;.  No last name necessary, then or now.  Makes me think of Meryl Streep&#8217;s tired rejoinder to her mother Shirley MacLaine&#8217;s suggestion that she should count her blessings because she &#8220;could have had Joan Crawford or Lana Turner for a mother&#8221;.  Meryl says, exhausted, &#8220;Joan?  Lana?  These are the options?&#8221;)  Mitchell and I texted our way through <i>Johnny Guitar<\/i> during my isolated sojourn on Block Island last month. I have a record of our conversation, and here it is, in its unedited glory and shame.  Naturally, after the movie finished, I had to call him right away so we could talk in person. <i>Johnny Guitar<\/i> is a gorgeously colored swamp of sexual psychodrama. It is also a Western. The gender roles flip-flopp, switch, meld together.  Francois Truffaut, in his essay on it wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>Johnny Guitar<\/i> is a phony Western, but not an &#8220;intellectual&#8221; one.  It is dreamed, a fairy tale, a hallucinatory Western.  It was only a step from the dream to Freud, which our Anglo-Saxon colleagues took up when they began talking about &#8220;psychoanalytic Westerns&#8221;.  But the qualities of Ray&#8217;s film are something different, not very visible perhaps to those who have never looked through a camera&#8217;s viewer&#8230;<i>Johnny Guitar<\/i> was &#8220;made&#8221; rather hastily, out of very long scenes that were cut up into ten segments.  The editing is jerky, but what interests us is something else: for example, an extraordinarily beautiful placement of individuals in a certain setting.  (The members of the patrol at Vienna&#8217;s, for example, arrange themselves in the V of migratory birds.)  There are two films in <i>Johnny Guitar<\/i>: Ray&#8217;s recurring theme &#8211; the relationships among the two men and two women, the violence and bitterness &#8211; and an extravagant catch-all done in Joseph von Sternberg style, a style which is absolutely foreign to Ray&#8217;s work, but which in this case is no less interesting.  For instance, we watch Joan Crawford, in a white dress, playing the piano in a cavernous saloon, with a candlestick and a pistol beside her.  <i>Johnny Guitar<\/i> is the <i>Beauty and the Beast<\/i> of Westerns, a Western dream.  The cowboys vanish and die with the grace of ballerinas.  The bold violent color (by Trucolor) contributes to the sense of strangeness; the hues are vivid, sometimes very beautiful, always unexpected.<\/p>\n<p>The public on the Champs-Elysees wasn&#8217;t mistaken to snicker at <i>Johnny Guitar<\/i>.  In five years they&#8217;ll be crowding into the Cinema d&#8217;Essai to applaud it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Here we go:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Johnny Guitar is on tcm.<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Camp.  Retro.  Psychological classic.<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Thrilling.<br \/>\n<i>The movie begins.  We continue to text one another throughout.<\/i><br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Omg her outfit.<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  The colors of the film r great.<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  I&#8217;m so used to seeing her in black and white.<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  The lesbian villain has arrived.  Not subtle. Ray was subversive.<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Yes quite blatant. I love the wind in the background<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  He created a whole Lez icon&#8230; lipstick. And a gun.<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  And a butch haircut<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  &#8220;if I don&#8217;t kill u fearst.&#8221;<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Wow.  Johnny Guitar&#8217;s speaking voice is seeexy<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Hahaha fearst<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  The lesbian is upset<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  She said tramp like wishful thinking<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Exactly.  You wish you could be a tramp!<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Like she is so sexually repressed.  She is rageful<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Joan is scary gorgeous<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Look at her brows<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:   love her acting<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Me too.  She means business<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  I guess I didn&#8217;t know her eyes were so blue<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  She was blue eyed and freckled<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Is that Ernest Borgnine?<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Yup<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Her tie is killing me.<\/p>\n<p>\n<img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"joan-crawford-johnny-guitar-vienna%5B1%5D.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/joan-crawford-johnny-guitar-vienna%5B1%5D.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"400\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  It&#8217;s so hyper realism.  All archtypes turned on their head.  With poetic dialogue and saturated color.  Gender studies heaven<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Turkey lost his virginity to Vienna, I&#8217;m thinkin<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Nice call<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Wait until Joan wears all white<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  How old is Joan here?<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  49<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Wow<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Hot<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Smokin<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  I love how Joan just said that line &#8220;Enough&#8221;.<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  I want Lez back.  All angry and moist<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  She&#8217;s angry BECAUSE she&#8217;s moist.  What a betrayal of the body<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Exactly.  Also the cowboy rivals for Joan are a dancer and a musician.  Not exactly butch.  The women are butcher<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Right, lots of anxiety about gender<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Can&#8217;t be accidental.  Not with Ray&#8217;s issues<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Oh totally<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Oh, Turkey.<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Lol<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Jesus, Johnny Guitar is hot<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Beautiful colors<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Bad dreams<\/p>\n<p>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Johnny-Guitar-1.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/Johnny-Guitar-1.jpg\" width=\"400\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Truffaut and Almadovar worship this film<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  The colors remind me of Almadovar<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  So true.  I think he even refers to it in Women on the Verge<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Turkey needs a spanking<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  He &#8220;makes her feel like a woman and that frightens her&#8221;.  What a line!<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Emma, you need to chillax<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Put ur cock away lesbian!<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Rude!!<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  I think they pass Turkey around when there ain&#8217;t no women folk<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Oh definitely Turkey is their bitch boy<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Blue and orange colors<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  White dress!<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  So girly all of a sudden<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Joan at the piano??  Brill!<\/p>\n<p>\n<img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"joan-crawford-1-johnny-guitar.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/joan-crawford-1-johnny-guitar.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Perfect<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Black and white ladies<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  But the short hair is a dead giveaway<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  She&#8217;s just such a damn good actress<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Poor Turkey<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Sweet boy<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Emma did the devil&#8217;s voice in The Exorcist<\/p>\n<p>\n<img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"11450.gif\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sheilaomalley.com\/11450.gif\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Really??<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Yup<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Every shot is a mini work of art<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  It&#8217;s style as substance.  Ya know?<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Yes, style as substance.  So many directors now cannot manage that<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Btw.  Turkey tied up with pretty red lips is such fetish porn.  I fucking love this movie<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Tom Ford does in A Single Man &#8230; and Tim Burton.  But it&#8217;s rare.<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Rare yes.  Michael Mann does it too.<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Yes<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Look at Joan swimming!<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Lol.  Like my aunt Dottie<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Ha!  You know, Joan was a huge star obviously, but I sense very little vanity in her actual acting<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  She liked working<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  You can really sense that<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  She and Mercedes hated each other<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  Really?<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Yeah.  Joan was threatened by her &#8230; acted aloof.<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  In a cage match I&#8217;d bet on Joan<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  She&#8217;ll fight dirty<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  This is a fascinating movie.  Ur right &#8230; subversive.<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Here we go.  Showdown.<br \/>\n<strong>Me<\/strong>:  !!<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  The women are having the showdown in 1954<br \/>\n<strong>Mitchell<\/strong>:  Great Peggy Lee song<\/p>\n<p><i>Movie over.  Ring, ring &#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The wonderful Bill has some capsule reviews here, and one of the films is Johnny Guitar. (Gotta love in the poster above how the headline is &#8220;Joan&#8217;s Greatest Triumph&#8221;. No last name necessary, then or now. 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