Supernatural, Season 14, episode 2

10 Responses to Supernatural, Season 14, episode 2

1. Aslan's Own says:

   October 19, 2018 at 9:06 pm

   I was surprised to see Dean back so soon, though I know that storyline isn’t over.

   It was interesting to watch Mark Pellegrino as Nick, playing him so intense and anguished without any of the taunts and smirks that Lucifer tends to display. I’d always thought Nick’s wife and baby were victims of random crime, but now I’m wondering if 1) it was supernaturally related or 2) if he did it himself (making the grief he displayed when the show first introduced him to be potentially inspired by remorse). I always thought his single-minded focus on revenge an interesting comparison to John Winchester losing HIS wife.

   I was disappointed in Jack for ignoring everything he’s learned about family to tell Castiel that he had to go meet “the only real family he has left.” Castiel and Sam and Dean (eventually) spent last season showing him that family don’t end with blood, that they were his family, but in this episode he seems to discount that. Also, his single-minded focus on killing Michael no matter the cost is too much like the angels’ attitude, not the humanity he’s supposed to have been learning. Yes, Dean WOULD have preferred to die rather than allow Michael to kill people in his vessel, but that’s when the people who love you step in to say, “We want to stop Michael, but we also want to save you.”

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   • Melanie says:

     October 21, 2018 at 6:22 pm

     Aslan’s Own,

     I find your theories about Nick and his family to be more provocative than anything else going on… I can totally see that neighbor trying to let Nick know that he wouldn’t say what he saw out of fear for his life. It reminds me of the “Repo Man” episode where the demon was attracted to the psycopath and he longed to have the demon back. Perhaps Lucifer was attracted to Nick because he had killed his family. Also reminds me of Sam “scarring his vessel” with patricide to keep his soul out. If Sam had to drink demon blood to hold Lucifer, what did Nick do that made his vessel a worthy host for Lucifer?

     I do not understand Michael just letting Dean go especially after the awesome cracked mirror scene. Ah, the old ‘Dean and the broken mirror’ motif – at least it proves someone has actually watched the last 13 seasons!

     As for Jack, he and Dean came to an understanding early last season. Jack seemed more drawn to Dean’s straightforward “I might have to put you down” than Sam’s gentler approach. Do you remember when he was literally mirroring Dean’s posture and gestures? It’s not surprising to me that he would voice this very Dean-like idea that Michael needed to go down with or without Dean. Of course letting Dean go takes all the steam out of that possible conflict. Is it any wonder Nick’s storyline is the most compelling?

     Lastly, I did enjoy Bobby’s acronym bit with the coroner.I

     OK, not quite last – Did anyone read that Ackles said that Michael was not the big bad this season? My money is still on the BEE who was featured prominently in the ‘road this far’ sequence.

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     • Barb says:

       October 22, 2018 at 10:02 am

       Pretty sure that Michael is not really gone. Letting Dean be on top is just a Trojan Horse.

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2. Kit says:

   October 20, 2018 at 2:57 am

   I really miss being able to trust that the writers knew what they were doing, and would write an arc that made sense. I mean, I’d like to believe that they had a plan for why Michael would (seemingly) release Dean, but after the past few seasons I’m skeptical that there’s anything more than “the fans won’t stick around for more than an episode without both Sam and Dean” behind the decision.

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3. W says:

   October 20, 2018 at 9:28 am

   I often wonder if I’m the only guy who regularly reads the Supernatural threads here, which are often really great, and I love Sheila’s in-depth commentaries…. long time lurker, first time poster…. I basically agreed with most of the critiques of the first ep of this season, which pretty much align with my disappointment with season 10 onward….

   For this ep, I did appreciate Nick being a realistic depiction of the season 5 Nick as we knew him then, if he were to come back now (if anyone’s seen season 5 who’s still watching now — I don’t think that’s implausible, as I’ve seen Jensen and Jared comment about how many people they run into who’ve binged the whole series via streaming services over the last few years)…. I don’t know where they’re going with the Michael arc, as all the complaints about the Demon Dean arc in season 10 were that it was too short (that wasn’t my complaint — it was more that Demon Dean did little more than pal around with Crowley and sing karaoke that was so much worse than what Jensen can actually sing), so ending the Michael arc this soon seemed unexpected, to say the least — but I’d rather that than a long, drawn-out “how do we kill Michael without killing Dean” arc. Frankly, I’m really tired of angel/demon arcs, and I’d much rather see Sam and Dean (and whoever else is on their side — which I’d rather see being a very small band of others — “we few, we happy few” — instead of some large team) facing some OTHER dark, dangerous challenge that has arisen while all the angel/demon falderol has distracted everyone (in season 10, they threw away the Grand Coven of witches, the Steins, and a couple of other potential Big Bads…. only to end up with the lame “Darkness” — a woman in an evening gown — for season 11)…. And yes, I totally agree with Sheila, I’d like to see the bunker destroyed and the show returned to its roots as a two-guys-on-the-road show….

   But hey, what do I know? I’m just a fan who loved seasons 1 thru 5, and somewhat less 6 and 7, and less than that, seasons 8 and 9 … and since then has only been hanging on because I love Sam and Dean, and yes, a few other characters….

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   • Debbie Lake says:

     October 20, 2018 at 10:17 pm

     OMG! You have expressed my exact feelings regarding how this show has declined. If it weren’t for Jared & Jensen, I would have given up a long time ago.

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4. Carolyn Clarke says:

   October 20, 2018 at 11:50 am

   I’ve only watched the episode once and I find that no matter how disappointing some episodes can be, watching it twice usually helps me to try to make sense of the story though I will admit it doesn’t always help when the episode doesn’t make sense. Overall, I think it was a decent episode and better than the first. Not to knock Mr. Singer as a director, but I honestly thing that Richard Speight gets SPN better now and I think his direction helps the show because he understands the nuances better. For example, Michael/Dean in the first episode was a machine, a glorious machine, but a machine. Very black and white. This Michael/Dean was ever so slightly more different. The “there you go” comment when he was experimenting with the vampires. The ” too much this/that” comment. I don’t think the Michael/Dean from the first episode would have said anything.

   I also am not totally shocked by Jack. Remember he is only one year old. Let’s stretch it and say he is a teenager. Certainly not an adult. Yes, Dean, Sam, Cas, etc., are his family and I think he gets that but he also doesn’t understand everything yet. He is still learning. He is surprised when he gets beat up because he doesn’t know how to fight. He seeks out Kelly’s parents because he wants to with no further thought about the effect or the outcome. He knows Michael has to die, he knows and has seen the type of sacrifices that the Winchesters and company are willing to make to save the earth and themselves. His mind doesn’t see an alternative to killing Dean to kill Michael. At least not yet despite Sam’s and Cas’ best efforts. Unless they can give him an answer that makes sense, he’ll still going to think that he is right and this is the only way. In a rather interesting way, Jack’s progress is echoing the Darkness ( “a woman in an evening gown” – love that description) in that she also started out fully formed but a child and had to take the whole season to learn whatever lesson she was supposed to learn. Hopefully, the writers will do it better this time. Amara just got on my nerves by episode six.

   I also agree that this is SPN lite and only a shadow of what it once was. But I think it’s interesting that Kripke only wrote the Winchester to last for five seasons. If the fansites are to be believed, he didn’t plan for 14 seasons (!). Who does? His idea of building the Winchester saga built around this brotherhood of men who love each other like a SWAT team or a group of astronauts or soldiers in extreme combat was genius.

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5. cordelia says:

   October 21, 2018 at 3:30 am

   I am just going to leave this here- “dean doesn’t matter” Jack Klein (nougat man baby who is only alive because Dean sacrificed himself and said yes after he opened his home to him.). Jensen was fantastic as Michael. I honestly don’t care who Jensen plays as long as he is on my screen.

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6. Melanie says:

   October 21, 2018 at 8:11 pm

   This week’s entry in the “What I’m Sure You Meant to Say” category:

   When Jack is whining about being useless and Cass is telling him how S & D came to be what they are today…

   “Every moment of their lives they have been forged in fires of trauma, loss, and violence which wrought the steel strength you see in them today.”

   But, yeah, what you said was… uhhh… adequate.

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7. KathyB says:

   October 21, 2018 at 9:04 pm

   I think we are finally at the end of the line with the show. Just done. So many great seasons and memorable scenes. Thanks for the memories, boys. Getting off now.

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