Cary and Sophia

10 Responses to Cary and Sophia

1. DBW says:

   December 8, 2007 at 10:12 am

   Those two could make cut-off jeans and a T-shirt look elegant. I was trying to think of examples within the current crop of Hollywood stars who have that kind of ease and glamour. Not saying there aren’t any, but I’m not thinking of too many off the top of my head. You, of course, will make me look foolish by naming 50 immediately. Maybe Nicole Kidman. Hard for me to say, but maybe George Clooney?
2. red says:

   December 8, 2007 at 10:16 am

   Clooney, definitely. He’s old-school. He looks at home in a tux. Like Cary did.

   I think Cate Blanchette and Kate Winslet have that kind of glamour too. Lush, perfect, not over-done, elegant, womanly.

   Nicole Kidman has been scaring me a bit lately. Her clothes look lovely, but something about her is looking more and more skeletor-ish, as though something is eating away at her from within. I’m frightened. Hold me.
3. DBW says:

   December 8, 2007 at 10:26 am

   I knew you would come up with a few. I should have thought of Cate and Kate, both of whom I really like. You’re right about Kidman. I saw a couple minutes of her doing an interview show recently, and she did have a skeletal look that detracted from her lovely length, and natural body posture. She’s been through a lot recently in her personal life, and, no, I don’t know any details, but I pay enough attention to those things to know her husband(are they still married?)has had some drug problems, etc. No matter how beautiful one is, those kind of things take a toll–physically and mentally.
4. DBW says:

   December 8, 2007 at 10:31 am

   I guess my bigger point was that today’s crop of stars seem to go around looking like slobs half the time. I’m not judging them, but the old generation seemed to take their “station” in life more seriously–or, more likely, just had a different, and better, PR machine. Adults, in general, seemed to dress more like adults back then. I look at old home movies of my Grandparents back in the 40s and 50s, and they were always dressed up–even Saturday mornings involved nice sleepwear and a robe with slippers. Today, I’m sitting in “soft” pants and a shirt I could mow the lawn in. It’s just a different mindset.
5. red says:

   December 8, 2007 at 10:38 am

   I think people, in general, look like slobs today. I go to a Broadway show and people think it’s appropriate to wear flip flops. There’s that funny PJ O’rourke quote – he was at some political meeting, making fun of everybody – and there’s some line like: “When did it become okay to meet presidential candidates wearing your play-date outfits?”

   hahahahahaha

   It’s a more casual age, most definitely – and some of that is good. It suits me, definitely – since I’m not comfortable in heels, and I’d be pissed if I HAD to wear them every day … but I love some old-school glamour that doesn’t look imposed – it looks organic.

   Like Clooney in his tux. It looks natural.

   Oh, and Sharon Stone has this too. She sometimes has a fashion mis-fire, as we all do – but in general, she seems really into that old-school glamour, and always looks like a million bucks.
6. red says:

   December 8, 2007 at 11:01 am

   Oh and one more thing on this topic, because it’s a pet peeve of mine:

   If you’re a man, and you want to wear a tux to your holiday party – then wear it. Even if it’s out of style. You will get a million compliments and show EVERYBODY else up.

   If you’re a woman, and you want to dress to the nines to go to a Broadway show – do so – even though everyone around you is wearing flip-flops and baggy jeans shorts … You will show everyone up and make them reconsider their choices.

   It happens all the time.

   People BEMOAN the state of affairs way too much. You can only tend your own garden. (Not talking about you, DBW – I’m talking generally). Like: “wah wah wah why don’t men wear hats anymore??”

   Look: if you think it’s cool to wear a fedora, then wear a fedora. I know guys who do, and they always look awesome, and different and they’re a throwback – and it’s great.

   I think sometimes people who whine about stuff like this are actually uncomfortable with being eccentric … and so they do what they can to fit in – but then bitch about the way things are in an incessant refrain.

   In MY world, with MY friends – we have no problem being eccentric. Our very lifestyle choices do not go with the flow of the rest of the culture. Whatever. We’re not bothering anyone. You want to wear a satin cocktail dress and stockings with a seam up the back? Go for it. You’ll look awesome, and you’ll be different than everyone else, and you’ll get a ton of compliments.

   But most of the whiners seem to RESENT the fact that the culture doesn’t reflect THEIR values … but that’s ridiculous. I guess I’m used to the culture at large being something I’m not quite a part of, because of how I live my life, blah blah blah. I’m totally fine with being eccentric. So just do your own thing. Dress up if you want to. Roll your hair in curlers eveyr night. Wear a trenchcoat. Wear spats. IF YOU WANT TO.

   Don’t let the flip-flop play-date-outfit crowd dictate to you what you should wear. Do your own thing. Live long and prosper.

   Be well.

   That’s what I see in Clooney’s choices. He makes other guys look like frumps … but he wears the tux with ease, as though it is his natural clothing.

   Ah, I love to lecture. That’s actually a little lecture that’s been percolating a long time.
7. DBW says:

   December 8, 2007 at 11:13 am

   Agree with you completely. In fact, I’m going to wear my spats to the mall this afternoon. I’ll show those little twerps.
8. red says:

   December 8, 2007 at 11:15 am

   (Not that you needed the lecture … you understand. I’m just spouting off.)

   The main thing is if your resistance to wearing a tux to your office holiday party is: “But no one else will be wearing one!” – then you need to really LOOK at that, and see that you are CHOOSING to not do what you want to do.

   A couple years ago – I was at an office party – and it was kind of chi-chi – but you know, the guys mainly had on button down shirts, and khakis – nothing big – and one of the guys showed up in a tux. A black and white tux – white bowtie. (He was a fun guy, too – really funny) – and people are STILL talking about it. He didn’t do it to stick it to the other men, he didn’t do it with a chip on his shoulder – He did it because he’s kind of an old-school guy, who loves the Rat Pack, and who figured – hey man, it’s a party – when do I get to wear a tux ever? I’m wearing one!

   But he had to be comfortable with not looking like everyone else in the room. With standing out.

   I think a lot of the “why don’t people dress up anymore????” crowd are uncomfortable with making choices that would make them stand out. They want everybody ELSE to be dressed up – so THEY could dress up too – and not stick out too much.

   And etc. Ad nauseum. You get my point.

   Exeunt.
9. red says:

   December 8, 2007 at 11:16 am

   DBW – hahahahaha But that’s my point! You can’t do it to “stick it to people” – you have to do it cause you want to!

   Please send photos of you in your spats, browsing in Radio Shack.

   Thank you.
10. dorkafork says:

    December 9, 2007 at 10:06 am

    I think a good guide for men to follow is to ask themselves “What would James Bond wear?” (I personally try and alternate between the tuxes and the scuba gear.) But you can find examples of James Bond in very stylish casual wear, for example in Thunderball.

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