As always, if possible, let’s keep current season conversations separate from the conversation about my re-caps. It’s just my organizational obsessiveness. Those re-caps are a shit-ton of work (fun work, mind you!), and the discussions RULE but again, I like to keep things organized in their little buckets, especially considering the number of comments.
Thank you!
I won’t be watching tonight. In all honesty, believe it or not, I thought the premiere was next week. But I’ll catch you all later here once I’ve seen it.
Wow. Like, really- wow.
First off, the woman playing Crowley was GREAT.
Loved the un-soppiness of the music cue at the start. If that makes any sense.
I wasn’t at all interested in Le Darkness, but I think it might just be one of the best things that could have happened.
Or I wasn’t previously interested in the Darkness. This has persuaded me otherwise.
If it had to be personified at all, they found an intriguing actress for it.
Yeah, I liked her- what a great shot of her against the Darkness cloud thing.
If only she doesn’t turn out a bureaucrat. One can only hope.
I liked her too, but would also have been happy if the Darkness turned out to be this.
Helena – LOL!
mutecypher – here is the lovely story of BB delivering a baby girl (Mini MoC?) in a London park. I caught the live broadcast and couldn’t believe my ears.
A man of parts.
Cas isn’t coughing and Sam hasn’t fallen off a ladder, so that’s already a good start.
I liked Dean being able to pause and listen to Sam’s “we have to change,” and responding with “What are you thinking?”
And I’m with Wren: horny, menopausal Crowley was great.
CCR’s Run Through The Jungle was great in the intro. The actress playing sheriff ( officer?) Jenna looks like she’d be the baby sister of Sarah from Provenance.
The non-Cas Angels still look like metrosexual bureaucrats. As do Crowley’s minions.
Not quite drunken demon Dean singing karaoke, but a good season opener.
I also like the Alien3 nod with the infected trio sniffing Sam and letting him go.
//Jenna looks like she’d be the baby sister of Sarah from Provenance.//
She was the girl stolen by the Alpha vampire in Season 7. Looks like she’s had a career change and is earning an honest dollar at last … And horny-Crowley-woman was from the Halloween episode of Season 4 (I’m glad she came back.) … And the swinging-couple-wife was the chief Amazon in the Amazon episode … And the horny-woman’s husband was definitely in it before as something.
And at one point I was convinced that someone, anyone, was going to wake up and find it was all a dream …
Wow, nice catches.
All this has happened before and all of it will happen again.
So we’ll get Tricia Helfer as a Cylon who doesn’t realize she’s dead? Kewl!
I’ve made this comment elsewhere but basically everyone who is in Battlestar Galactica is downloaded in some form in Supernatural (even Ellen) … so my conclusion is that, never mind the Darkness, the Winchesters main problem is Cylons.
Also I quite liked Darkness lady and I hope that she always appears in that swirling vortex of mist – it’s very becoming. And also, isn’t that a reference to Jonathan Strange and Mister Norrell? in which case, that’s a WIN, and I look forward to the episode featuring 18th century magicians with weskits.
Yes, the Darkness in swirly grey mist was something I didn’t realize the show was missing until now.
We need Dr. Baltar to be some conniving, self-centered go-between who betrays Sam and Dean (and maybe even Adam!) to the Cylons. Perhaps blowing up heaven or purgatory in the process. As “All Along The Watchtower” plays in the background.
//We need Dr. Baltar to be some conniving, self-centered go-between who betrays Sam and Dean (and maybe even Adam!) to the Cylons. Perhaps blowing up heaven or purgatory in the process. As “All Along The Watchtower” plays in the background.//
Write that goddam episode now!
The lady cop was Hael in Season 9. I’m sure of it.
Lacey J Mailey.
Although she did look a lot like Hael.
It must be the eyes. The beautiful, beautiful eyes.
Good call on all these.
I think I actually preferred this to last season’s opener- despite the lack of ‘drunken demon Dean singing karaoke’ (lol). I get the sense that angels aren’t going to feature heavily, thank gawd. (Cas’s storyline seems to be picking up somewhat post-BoTD. I’m able to raise some interest in what’s happening to him now).
I think the reason I liked it so much was that it felt like the start of the breakthrough we’ve been predicting on Sheila’s threads. As the Js said- a reset. With that gritty almost season fiveish feel to it.
And skipping right through the brother angst. Like a lock and a key.
/Like a lock and a key./
I’m sure that will wind up the Wincest crowd.
//I’m sure that will wind up the Wincest crowd.//
In general, they get wound up fairly easily.
Fun fact: Tara of the Lovely Biceps in Season 9 is reading href=”https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/29/Joehilllockekey.jpg/250px-Joehilllockekey.jpg”>Locke and Key when Dean and Crowley walk into her shop.
or even Locke and Key #darnhtml
Love this inside joke by Robbie Thompson, tying together French Mistake, Wincest and his abiding love of comic books in one small detail.
*Tara of the Lovely Biceps* Hahaha, all the great dead characters need sainted names. What about *Cecelia of the Hipster Glasses*?
//I liked Dean being able to pause and listen to Sam’s “we have to change,” and responding with “What are you thinking?”//
That was one of my favorite moments. Growth!
I was so so very wrong to want Crowley dead last year. Crowley plopped down in the middle of a birthday swingers party is the best thing ever. And the husband saying, “and I prayed on it.” Happy birthday!
“I’m hot. Why am I hot?” Oh my god. A demon explaining menopause.
Carver has redeemed himself for the Mummy-Doesn’t-Love-Me speech.
/”and I prayed on it.”/
“Lord send me some sort of sign if you want me to do this…. Yes! He is Risen!”
I really feel like everyone in this episode who wasn’t Sam or Dean ought to have been played by a Murphy brother so I wouldn’t have had that go on in my head all the time.
“The cage! Michael or Lucifer is trying to warn us!”
LOL Adam forever alone.
Sam’s hair rating: 1.5 dramatic zooms
Sam’s face rating: it’s like how much more can they beat on Sam? And the answer is none. None more.
Dean should wake up in a field of wildflowers at least once an episode. I didn’t realise that this was something the show was missing until now.
//Dean should wake up in a field of wildflowers at least once an episode. I didn’t realise that this was something the show was missing until now.//
I would have to agree.
The slow camera move through the wild flowers … I was trying to identify which ones had magical properties.
Also, Sam’s line “that’s not much for the bumper sticker” earned a laugh.
Best laugh was Dean getting into and rapidly out of the Impala because he was too busy ranting!
Followed by Sam’s “well, you were on a roll.”
That’ll learn Dean to monologue like some villain.
I actually got chills when the Cage was mentioned. Nobody’s even referenced it since, what- season seven?
Fan Fiction!
Oh yeah. Oh well. It was still pretty unexpected.
It was good – I’m hoping something comes of it!
//Sam’s face rating: it’s like how much more can they beat on Sam? And the answer is none. None more.//
Right?? Poor JP looked like shit. The hair I find much improved.
What did everyone think of the title card?
Title card was the one disappointment after last year’s shock and awe.
I was… meh’d by the card.
Oh, it’s The Darkness.
I had an initial moment of horror thinking they’d changed the font. Having just checked and found they haven’t, I’m reconciled to the meh-ness.
The windflowers were amazing, after the swirling batch of pollution of the Darkness.
Sam always with the beat down. I’m with mutecypher on the Alien imagery. Sniffing out another of the infected and calmly walking away, which indicates that it is not random violence that they are after but propagation at all costs. But with the life span of a fruit fly?
The first few minutes felt much like a callback to the opening of Lazarus Rising to me – this bright, sunny, unbearably still day that is buzzing with the anticipation of what’s to come. A good start.
Can we talk about the fact that the Darkness (presumably) took a form that Dean’s every instinct is going to want to protect? I had a feeling from the promos that this might be the direction it took. I think the writers might have taken our wishes and twisted them yet again. Dean with a baby girl – who just might be the most destructive force they’ve dealt with.
Fun fact: the baby’s name means “beloved” and “eternal.”
The look of the whole thing was great. What a shadowy hospital! So different from I Think I’m Gonna Like It Here.
And agreed. Interested to see where they take the baby plotline. Like- how can she be a femme fatale (as described at the cons) when she’s six hours old?
And since it seems nobody else is going to say it, I will: the little MoC was really very cute.
Maybe the femme fatale comment was to throw people off? Or maybe with the baby MoC, she will pull an Emma Winchester and be 16 and ready to go by episode 3? Baby MoC was kind of cute.
Now I’m wondering if “Mark of Cain” is actually the right name for it, since it clearly pre-dates Cain.
//Can we talk about the fact that the Darkness (presumably) took a form that Dean’s every instinct is going to want to protect? // Nice point, Natalie! They’ve left it open as to which of the new arrivals is the Darkness–maybe both, as you said downthread–or maybe one of them is the Mark? Or maybe one is Lock and one is Key? The mind boggles.
If you’re right and one is the lock and one is the key, there might be a parallel being drawn between the baby and Amara, and Sam and Dean- it’d make sense, given that the Darkness is not only taking form in the baby, which Dean’ll want to protect, but also in Sam, who he’ll want to protect probably even more…
Badly expressed. But you get my drift?
I like this thought of lock and key. They are opposites in all ways. The oldest and the youngest. The corrupt and the clean. The sexy and the innocent. Yeah, ok, I think you get my point.
I’m not sure you could describe Sam as ‘innocent’ per se, but I get your drift!
Haha, I meant the baby not Sam! Let me clarify.
And Sam as clean? No.
We’ve all seen Heart and I Know What You Did Last Summer, we all know Sam is dirty as hell.
I’m wondering if Dean will do The Time Warp (again) if The Darkness is calling.
I loved the ambiguity in that first scene with Dean and The Darkness, where she says “I don’t know this Death and he doesn’t know me.”
I was also surprised to like Jen (?) the newbie sheriff and especially the scene with handing off the baby. Of course, he picks her to give the baby to, not just because he knows her but because she’s the only woman/caretaker type in the vicinity. And yet her first response is “I don’t even own a guinea pig”. Like why the hell are you picking me?
I liked her too! And if I were him I’d’ve given her the baby over Sam and Dean any day. I mean, they weren’t exactly being quiet about the stash of guns in their trunk. Or the fact that they released the Darkness.
I’ll give you that. The choices were pretty sparse in that moment.
I think Hair & Makeup really messed up with the Sheriff. Couldn’t see past it and found the performance really wooden. I hope I like her more when she comes back.
**The Cage! The Cage!** Warning I may combust because I’ve been waiting for Lucifer for over a season and now we may get him, rattling the Cage in frustration. How can you not free the Light Bringer to fight the Darkness? And with it another re-rewrite of the great mythology, the grand beginning.
Yes, that was a serious tease, wasn’t it.
Lucifer….
Or Michael—
Ooh, I didn’t even think about the “light bearer” part. Was that Lucifer’s original purpose? To banish the Darkness?
Lucifer has such great names like the Dawn Bringer, Light Bearer or Most Beautiful. Some people were upset with what they saw as season finale retcon of Lucifer (and the other Archangels) righting and defeating the Darkness but I thought it was fantastic. It was never fully explained in the Bible why God gave him those names, but this story explains it if he was the soldier that brought it down the first time.
* fighting not righting. Goddamn autocorrect.
Loves the new start to this season. Sam and Dean: saving people, hunting things, the family business. I’m intrigued by the darkness. This is an entirely made up entity that doesn’t have a shred of lore in the “real world.” The writers can make up any damn thing they want and that is glorious. I wondered after they showed the Mark on both the baby and the Mysterious Woman of the Darkness, if the Darkness is so vast that it needs to occupy many different vessels. That one single one cannot contain the scope of its powers. And if my theory is correct, if they are all going to be female. Women doing bad things is a completely different evil than men doing bad things. Either way, sign me up for Season 11!!
//Women doing bad things is a completely different evil than men doing bad things.// Interesting question of feminine vs masculine evil. Does the feminine seek to protect (the Eve story line of protecting her “children”) or to propagate (the infected sniffing out Sam in the closet)? Demons have an element of chaos and violence that is their own, but even Meg and Ruby had a loyalty/protection vibe that you didn’t see in other demons.
Exactly. I think women tend to do violence in the name of creation and the protection of their creation. She “saved” Dean and kept talking about their bond. I might be the only one who is getting a sexual vibe from her but not necessarily one that is directed at Dean. Definitely need a rewatch to hear the dialogue.
Jill V. Nope, you’re not. :)
hello. well i have only watched this chapter once but my first impresion is: this is not SUPERNATURAL, the tv show, this is a tv show showing some supernatural life force in a hot gown showing way too much cleavage and getting cozy with ” third- date- dude -in -tigth -jeans”… so this is the approch i am going to take watching it.
when the darkness girl and dean’s eyes locked…
can any of you imagine what it is going to happens when lucifer finds out that michael’s true vessel is been making it up with his “girlfriend”?
did lucifer’s dad had any “dealing” with this woman?
well, luci’s dad made himself some reputation after “dealing” with this eastern girl…
i was raised as a catholic but i have a human mind and this is my human way to understand how this particular “family” works.
also is my fanfiction bit.
/can any of you imagine what it is going to happens when lucifer finds out that michael’s true vessel is been making it up with his “girlfriend”?/
Yeah! That’s a fun thought. An angry Lucifer is a dramatic Lucifer.
wow, a dramatic lucifer… let’s have some.
another thing. that look and that closeness with darkness girl… i think i have seen it before. maybe from s1 dead man’s blood chapter, when he plays bait with female vamp.
Well, you’ve said it all already. Flowers, growth (Dean listening, taking in what Sam is saying, so great!), Cas might finally have an interesting story line, awesome Darkness, the-cage-Lucifer-yes-please. I loved the reference to 28 Days Later because. I loved the music. . Nothing else to add.
//Flowers, growth//
Yes, Lyrie, also possibly
All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field […]
The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
Key legs moment: Sam stopping the door from slamming behind him with his foot.
Favourite shot that didn’t involve flowers: Dean launching into frame gun raised.
That was a good legs moment. Lets combine legs and wildflowers for a moment. The shot where is Sam is running up the hill, looking for Dean, and as he rises, you see head, shoulders, torso, legs, legs, legs.
//Dean launching into frame gun raised// Yo, zombie dickhead, step away from the nice sheriff and baby or I will mess you up.
Here’s another scene where I like the new character. She is so short, holding the baby in one arm and a small revolver in the other against that huge father.
Also, there was another reference that made me laugh out loud and say “Sheilaaaaaa!”
You guys know what I’m talking about.
Magic Mike Magic Mike Magic Mike.
Ha, yes!
Haha- I heard that and thought of Sheila. Sometimes the SPN writers are uncanny…
I’m sure they’re reading us. They’re writing the show FOR us. That’s quite obvious.
Thanks, Jeremy Carver (also, bring back Benny) (in a spin off. In which I want to be cast. With Sheriff Donna and Jody-o. Thank you. )
Benny And Lyrie, Vampirates of The St. Lawrence Seaway I’d watch that.
Yes, Mutecypher, that sounds AWESOME! I’d act in that.
//I’m sure they’re reading us.//
I’m starting to feel the same.
If Sam and Dean end up going back in time to try to stop the duel between Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton, then we’ll have concrete confirmation.
How do a pair of orphans
sons of a boor and a hunter
suffer through violence and their corrupted blood
in subterranean
and heartless lives of dark and dire squalor
grow up to be a hero and a scholar?
Oh, Jessie, I love this so much! It has been echoing in my head since I read it last night. (Can I keep it and take it home with me?)
Jessie, I agree with Barb!
Barb, can we timeshare it?
lol guys, such is the power of Lin-Manuel Miranda’s flow!
Ah, interesting–I was trying to work out what poetry form you used, since it seemed formal to me. Clearly, I have research to do! (I did watch the “Hamilton” clip that Sheila posted– :-) )
Okay I think I just fainted.
“Please Get Me Out Of The Cage Where It Happens” – Adam Milligan
Hahahahahaha The best, Jessie!!!
ha ha oh man, I cannot stop laughing at my own dumb joke, damn. Like I once wrote a whole huge thing where Adam gets his arm cut off and it still wasn’t as dark as that one sentence. The whole idea of Adam is just so hilarious to me. His story feels like a Monty Python sketch or something. I heard he’s gonna get mentioned again this season and I can’t wait, I hope they just pour on the cruelty to even more absurd levels, I literally cannot get enough.
I know!! And then the awwwwwkward mention of him in Fan Fiction. “Who’s that?” “That’s your brother Adam. The one who’s still in the cage. In the pit. With Lucifer.” (or whatever the stage manager’s fabulous end-stopped line reading was).
// The whole idea of Adam is just so hilarious to me. His story feels like a Monty Python sketch or something. //
hahahahahahaha
I’d love it if we got to see him again – but I don’t know … Jake Abel is doing some pretty huge movies now. Have you seen Love & Mercy?? He plays a Beach Boy – he was awesome!!
But yeah, the whole mention of “the pit” … I got so freakin’ excited!
I don’t even need to see him again. I just want him to awkwardly come up in conversation every now and then just so he can be TOTALLY FORGOTTEN again. ha ha ha so brutal. He’s down in the pit like, hey, guys? Hey, uh. Think you could, oh, ok, nono, it’s cool I know you got like dramatic gazing into mirrors to do and hair to comb, that’s cool, I’ll just……like…….be here……
I haven’t seen Love & Mercy, no — one day!
Awkward references or non-references of Adam are so funny. Like: “Oh yeah … member him … Uhm, yeah. Next topic.”
The show seems to have picked up on the fannish indignance (which seems to actually intensify as the years go by) and have chosen such a great course of action: like, no, guys, we haven’t forgotten about Adam. Okay? But he ain’t crawling out of the Pit any time soon. Soz.
It’s now reached practically farcical levels. And they’re actually getting away with it.
// And they’re actually getting away with it.//
What a bunch of brilliant fuckers, I love them.
hi. is it me or this darkness girl has a penchant for brothers?
lucifer and michael, cain and abel, dean and sam…
I am easy. Dean looked fabulous and the story wasn’t as predictable as I feared it would be. I enjoyed it very much. Glad it wasn’t Dean all beaten to a bloody mess, as attractive as he is covered in blood it was becoming almost sexualized.(is that à proper word?). I liked Sam’s storyline.
Ok, I will be the first on Form and Void. Loved this ep so much. The look and feel of the lighting and shots was more old school SPN and introduced a fantastic mysterious character in Billie the Reaper. God, that voice! Sam being smart with his homemade taser and not tied to a chair or choked. And another creepy evil little girl in a cute dress. It was too much.
So many good lines but you have to give it to Crowley. “That baby steals souls!” as it squirms in its little pink onesy in the crib. And the wooden baby blocks imbedded in the wall FEED ME. Don’t feed the baby!
I loved the ambiguousness of Billie. She says to Sam, you know what I am, and he says a reaper. But she doesn’t outright agree with him. She mentions her old boss and Sam is the first to say Death. Again she doesn’t agree directly but says old Death found them funny. I also loved how they shot her. When she first turns to Sam and begins to talk, her face is in total darkness with the light behind her. A visual cue that she is lying, right? But lying about what. Her hateful and terrifying speech to Sam actually contain the clue that helped and provided urgent incentive to solve the problem.
God, I am so excited about this season.
//God, I am so excited about this season.//
My sentiments exactly!
I love your thoughts about Billie. I saw one review suggesting that she was a hallucination/vision from God, given that she was voicing a lot of Sam’s own fears about himself. Not sure about that interpretation. I can’t wait to see how it unfolds.
Oh my god, I know! Seriously though- Sam going insane in creepy hospitals is basically a SPN subgenre all of its own. But what GORGEOUS blurry closeups. And BILLIE. (Sorry to fangirl on your site, Sheila.) And just- the shadowiness- and Crowley all like ‘oh Dean, you maternal luscious alterboy.’
//Sam going insane in creepy hospitals is basically a SPN subgenre all of its own// hahaha. This is the fourth one so far? I like that he got a little angry at his hallucinations. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?!
Robert Mitchum was on Supernatural!!!!
this is basically the only thing I can think about!
Oh, and Billie. She was great.
NIGHT OF THE EFFING HUNTER!!!!!!!
ROBERT EFFING MITCHUM!!!!!!
Ole left hand HATE is down for the count. BLESS YOUR SENSE OF POETIC TIMING SAM, BLESS YOU A MILLION TIMES.
So, I don’t want to rag on Andrew Dabb, because there’s a little part of me that thinks he might be my soulmate (and Crowley’s “you’re very maternal” line to Dean felt like a personal gift to me, even if it was actually a gift to the entire fandom), and I know I was a little heavy on his case with that whole child welfare thing with Claire last season, but I just have to say something: exorcism in the Catholic church is actually a pretty big effing deal. There are something like 10 priests in the entire US who are authorized by the church to perform exorcisms, and only then after a thorough investigation to rule out fraud and mental and physical illness. You don’t call your parish priest and have an exorcist in your house within 20 minutes. (That could, however, happen in, say, certain Pentecostal congregations, which would not have worked for this episode because lierally the entire congregation would have shown up at Grandma’s house.) I get that this is not the point, and it was totally worth it to see Crowley in a dog collar and get the casual info that Crowley has a whole network of dirty priests and nuns in his pocket; it just bugs me when there are inaccuracies that could be detected with literally a 30-second google search.
(Andrew, if you’re reading this, I wouldn’t call you on these things if I didn’t love you so much. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for Yellow Fever, Dark Side, and Sam, Interrupted. And also for that scene of Dean shushing the baby.)
No 1-800-Exorcist? Good to know. Jenna’s eye roll at this too, “it’s just my nutty grandma overeacting and calling an exorcist.”
Seriously, I would love the back story on those two. Jenna, a small two lesbian (or bi) woman who is also a sheriff, and her grandma who is an overbearing staunch Roman Catholic (hello, Virgin Mary bathtub shrine? and making your adult granddaughter take a nap?). A whole lot of conflict inferred here.
I agree about the look: so gorgeous I wanted to eat the screen. So many great things in that episode! The shadows! The colours!
The two brothers, apart AND in sync? That’s new and beautiful. Each doing their thing, not saying everything to the other, but trusting that they’re doing what’s best. Listening to each other.
So many callbacks to past seasons, too! Visions of Sam in hell, a baby in a crib, the song “Death”, Ruby’s knife which I think I know love as much as the Colt)! Crowley & Dean (I want more about that relationship, I want MORE). And hey, they did pull an Emma Winchester! I’m sure I’m missing some because I watched the episodes a few hours ago and I’m writing this when really I should be doing something else. (ugh, real life. Right, Paula?)
So happy they brought back Hannah-guy! I love him. Some part of tumblr must be going crazy about gay angels right now! Ha!
The idea of Dean about to kill a baby? That’s new and disturbing and fascinating. I’m very, very excited about that season too.
Other stuff from previous seasons: holy oil, soulless people, throwing angel statues on the floor.
I have honestly no idea how they’re doing what they’re doing, but somehow they’re doing it.
The X-Files tailed off after 9 seasons. SPN is still finding fresh things & building on its mythology. Wow. SO excited.
Emma Winchester – I called it last week, haha. Dean now has his second monster baby that he’s attached to. Another throwback to an old idea but made new?
This is getting like Sam and his girlfriends. Dean, it does not end well with you and babies.
Callbacks, yes. I thought the biggest one was
//another creepy evil little girl in a cute dress. // Oh, “Hello, Lillith” with a side of coma Snow White, and barefoot Eve thrown in for old times sake. Another one was maternal!Dean with Bobby John, shifter baby. Interesting that warrior Dean will drop that persona in a second to protect a baby. Remember how Samuel and co. stay to fight the alpha shifter sending Dean away to guard the baby. In the hospital Dean was stepping up to take the baby instead of “I gotta keep my hands free for shotgun and other assorted weapons”. I thought he wasn’t gonna give her back at grandmas like he didn’t want to give BJ to Samuel. Here Dean actually leaves Sam (his stated purpose in life is to protect his little brother) to take Amara to safety. On the surface one might think its because he’s “bound” to the darkness, but we all know how strong that maternal instinct is in Dean.
I’m also thrilled to hear Crowley say, “I’m not your sidekick!” I was bored with bored Crowley. Nice to have nasty, conniving, “I want that soul eating baby” Crowley back again. Now I would love to see him back in the Malibu mansion.
Very clever Sam figuring out how to ritually cleanse the infection. Hilarious that the search site on the laptop in the hospital was WebMD. I liked Billie as well, but took her at face value as a reaper. She could actually have been the sign he asked for. It was her words about biblical uncleanness that led Sam to the cure. When God has helped in the past it has been pretty straight forward like zapping them to the plane. It’s more interesting that it’s a bit ambiguous.
I thought I had fast forwarded too far when D&S walked back into the bunker without a here’s what happened while we were apart scene. It seemed a little abrupt like Dean didn’t go looking for the little girl? Crowley found her easily enough.
I wonder if we’re going to see anymore of the sexy, swirly, smoky Darkness. I really liked her except I wish her dress had been a little less red carpet and a little more Gagaesque, what is she wearing. Her hair could have been wilder and swirly too, but I think they were going for a safe, calm, womblike feel in the midst of the swirling darkness. What if she were not evil just misunderstood and trapped away by the douchy angels before time. Redeem the darkness! Sam is rubbing off on me.
There was a faux Reaper named Billie,
To our hero Sam she was quite chilly,
No.
I sing of reapers and the Sam
Who from the corn fields of Nebraska
Landed in the cedar-ed shelves of a Lebanon library.
A fugitive, this Winchester, buffeted
Cruelly in hospitals, in Impalas, in cages, and pungent motel rooms,
By infections, by limes in disposals, by ambivalent brothers –
And behind these buffets, baleful Amara in her darkened rage.
A man apart, until the Spear-Dean intervenes,
Upon a mission to found a way of life that
Rescues all people. This Winchester,
This Lord of the War Plaid,
Sam of the glistening-damp hair,
Left by Demons and the pitiless Rowena
For years he wandered as destiny drove him on
From one season to the next, so hard and huge
A task it was to hunt things and ride shotgun.
Mutecypher, I read that in Latin IV many many years ago! Very appropriate for our heroes.
The Aeneid not the Limerick although…
There once were two brothers from Kansas
Who fought ‘gainst monsters and badness…
The Darkness was loosed
And Dean was seduced
But Sam saved the day with his plan-ses.
/plan-ses/
Sounds like a limerick that Gollum would make up.
I’m crying. Epic poems and Gollum limericks.
O for a muse of fire, to explode in periwinkle gloop.
Thanks, Melanie.
//periwinkle gloop//
Poncho guy!!!!!
After all we have her to thank for laying Dean gently down in those lovely wildflowers. How evil can she be, right?
#RedeemtheDarkness
Because hunting things is only half the bumper sticker.
On board with #RedeemTheDarkness. She’s probably misunderstood. God probably thought of her as bossy in his “slightly misogynistic” way. And the soul eating? Really that’s just a guilty pleasure. I’m sure she can stop at any time.
Ha ha, loving this, Paula!
//God and his “slightly misogynistic” way//
I’m crying.
Exactly. Just a hungry baby and growing girl!
*cue Castiel-eating-hamburger ‘I can stop anytime I want’ gif*
I am finally caught up on the new season (I’ve fallen down a well of K-dramas and have yet to pull myself out). Maternal Dean. So the writers are trolling us specifically now?
I really like that Sam is insisting they save people again. I’ve missed that.
And now for my wild speculations:
– Billie isn’t just a reaper, she’s the new incarnation of Death.
– Sam’s vision/memory means that they have to let Lucifer out of the cage to fight the darkness (or contact him or something). Like Paula said above,
he is the light-bringer after all.
Yes, of course as soon as Death said, “God and his archangels…” we knew the cage was coming open, but you are right about Sam’s vision of being in the cage. It was a sign to Sam. I foresee Sam will figure it out and will have to convince Dean that it was a sign from God. Looking forward to that. Hope they don’t disappoint.
I agree. I wonder what this means for the suggestions that God will actually make an appearance this season. I both want and don’t want that. If it turns out that Chuck is God, I’m going to be seriously disappointed. A reappearance of the archangels would be a welcome revitalization of the angel mythology, though. (Please, please, please include Gabriel in that, writers. We didn’t actually SEE him die, after all!)
Natalie, So glad to hear ONE person voice that disappointment about Chuck as God! Don’t get me wrong he will always be the greatest prophet like the one who got carried away in the chariot, but he was just too wimpy at times to be the Big Guy. As much as I love Shatner I’m also not pulling for him as G because he’s kind of a smartass. Mark Sheppard’s father is a veteran sci-fi actor who really looks the part of benevolent, but tough Supreme Diety. Could be interesting…
I love Chuck and would love to see him brought back in some way, just not as God! I’d rather have indefinite ambiguity and speculation than that.
My biggest fear with actually meeting God is that it would follow the same path that the angels have taken. If they’re actually going to bring God on the show, it needs to be spectacular enough to top the reveal of Castiel in Lazarus Rising.
Or maybe like this?
“Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. After the earthquake came a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper.” –1 Kings
Big G knows a thing or two about creating drama! Agreed. I also fear a trivialization of
God.
//Maternal Dean. So the writers are trolling us specifically now?//
I’m pretty sure they have been for a while. My heart was all aflutter with this episode, though, in spite of my criticisms above.
//Billie isn’t just a reaper, she’s the new incarnation of Death.//
That thought occurred to me, too. Especially since her “warning” to Sam was directly instrumental in him figuring out the cure. I could see Death being like, “You two have SERIOUSLY pissed me off now, and it’s time for a lesson in just who you’re screwing with, but I’m still not finished with you yet.”
How convenient was it, btw, that Dean just happened to include the holy oil in the supplies he brought into the hospital? I know there was that explainer line about bringing in anything and everything, but still. Also, do they have a self-replenishing supply of the holy oil? That stuff was supposed to be hard to get, wasn’t it?
“You might say we pulled it out of Sam’s ass”
LOL! Of course!
Changing channels/NightRider reference FTW.
My really, really wild prediction:
“But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most, our one fellow and brother who most needed a friend yet had not a single one, the one sinner among us all who had the highest and clearest right to every Christian’s daily and nightly prayers, for the plain and unassailable reason that his was the first and greatest need, he being among sinners the supremest?”
– Mark Twain’s Autobiography
Sam in his “save everybody” frame of mind might come to see this as an opportunity for Lucifer to redeem himself by saving creation from The Darkness. Will he have to take his cue from Sam’s playbook and jump into oblivion taking TD with him?
If Mark Twain can go there I guess SPN can too. Do they dare?
They kind of approached that territory in Swan Song when Lucifer tries to persuade Michael not to fight. It’d be wonderful if they revisited it.
This would be fantastic and right in line with the theme of facing up to your past mistakes. Lucifer redeeming himself from his epic temper tantrum? But what about Michael? Will that be the parallel to the Winchesters, two brothers working together, in sync towards a common goal?
Yeah. Definitely parallel. Dean reluctant to buy into the plan, Michael reluctant to team up with the rebellious little brother. Will it require S&D to be vessels? Dean especially would resist that. WOW!
Thinking of Lucifer and Michael in the cage and of course this came to mind. Is this what it’s really like in the Cage?
http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/486386-get-along-shirt
Hahaha. We’ll make Michael and Lucifer wear ‘the get along’ shirt!
// Dean especially would resist that.//
But imagine the issues Sam would have- after Lucifer last time, after Gadreel, after the Cage… I don’t think they’d be possessed by them.
Yes you would think so, but in his current frame of mind, desperate for his own redemption, I think Sam would go there if he were cinvinced it was the answer. Dean on the other hand (correct me if I’m wrong) has never been possessed by angel or demon. Still, you’re right, it would be nearly unbearable for Sam. Dean would resist the idea more so for Sam’s sake than his own.
Sheila,
Thanks for the 1000 Channing Tatums in sailor suit saluting me every time I post!
hello. what about that wonderful shoot of the bucket and mop ( boys you need to clean up your own mess), the pile of books (go back to do some proper research about the darkness) and that gorgeous telescope at the back of the library ( the answer is in the stars)?
sometimes i join the astronomical society of my hometown to take a howl at the ful moon, with real powerful telescopies or take a peek at the NASA link to watch in real time what its going on outside the international space station. sadly the NASA will end that project this month.
all this giberish is to know if someone can figure it out where the telescope is heading?
It’s funny that recently we were fantasizing about extra rooms in the bunker and I said something about a tower with a telescope. Then I was rewatching season 8? when they first found the bunker and I was so shocked to see the telescope there in the curtained alcove at the end of the room. Surely there is a lift to the roof since they are below ground level and that building has several levels above ground as seen from outside. I would love to see the telescope get some action (ditto the ninja stars.)
Re bucket and mop: didn’t Dean say, “We need to get a cleaning lady in here”?
So much symbolism, hard to say.
hi, i just took a look at the coffee table book i recently bougth in london- the essential supernatural- and it seems that the men of letters’s bunker has a main meeting room with iluminated world map, research library, observatory with telescope, crow’s nest, laboratory, kitchen, multiple bedrooms, dungeon and garage with vintage automobiles. not a word about lifts but some months ago i dreamt about a chapter that took place in the library and through some wooden pannels out came a lift that could take whoever was inside to other dimensions. i did see dean jump head firts into some pitless pit.
if someone is goint to use the telescope that would be sam. dean would just say some naugthy remark about it.
last but not least. butler or housekeeper? if a housekeeper please let it be a mix of mary poppins and herr rottenmeiyer.
Now I’m obsessed with the telescope and the lift. How do they get it up to viewing level? Maybe it’s MoL Magnus magic. Why build a lift when a spell might work? It has got to make an appearance this season.
All this discussion about the mop and broom makes me think of domestic Winchesters and their chore list. Dean cleans the kitchen, his bedroom and we can assume the garage is his domain. Sam cleans the library, conference room and his bedroom. But who cleans the bathrooms or the dungeon? I need to know. Is it rock, paper scissors every time?
Hehe- there’s a thing going round on Tumblr- basically there was an s10 deleted scene of Sam cleaning up the blood from the library floor and so after Form And Void that appeared with the words ‘Or maybe you could stop killing people in the library, Dean’.
Yes, the exact qoute was murdering people, implying all sorts of negatives about Dean. As if his dispatching the Stiens was à bad thing or his attacking Gadreel wasn’t just. I did like the continuity of the bunker left in such a mess and does Dean clean his room and the kitchen and Sam the library/conference room.
I loved the second ep even more than the first, even if I LOL at Sam’s roasting marshmallow scene, I applaud his quick thinking.
I think the post was more affectionate/for humorous effect- it originated from a Dean-friendly blogger… but yes, the second ep was great. I’m loving the feel of this season so far. Quite aside from it looking like a marshmallow, that scene was just so… beautifully shot… like I think the episode contained some of the most gorgeous images in the whole show. Go, Scriggcia. Or however you spell it.
yep. another great shoot: the white country house against a bright sunny day and clear blue sky, grandmama in the front door greeting grandaugther cuddling baby girl.. dean takes a look at that idilic image and damm comes a flashback down at memory lane across his gaze… his eyelids “wipe” that scene and turns away towards the impala. WOW oh WOW !!!
eleven years watching this fictional character walking away from a normal life.
still hurts like hell having to witness that.
Re the lift: I envision a steam punk/Jules Verne like contraption rising in the shaft of the tower to the observatory on the roof with a dome that opens up to the night sky and absolutely NO sexual innuendo involved – yeah right.
Re cleaning up: Mama!Dean would clean without even noticing that he was doing it. Sam would have good intentions, but by the time he gets around to doing ‘his share’ Dean would already have it done. Now in terms of putting the books back on the shelf Dean would put them back neatly but in no particular order. You know the type. As long as they’re not on the floor its cleaned up. Sam would get so annoyed by this that he would come along behind and redo it all with a perfect cross-referenced system that will take him at least 2 more seasons to complete. Yea!!!
//Sam would get so annoyed by this that he would come along behind and redo it all with a perfect cross-referenced system that will take him at least 2 more seasons to complete.// Exactly! and this is why the bunker’s books and files still aren’t catalogued. Sam keeps trying to organize them but gets easily distracted when he flips through them – “huh, Celtic mythology and banshees, Dad’s journal didn’t have anything on this” – and Mama!Dean finds him sitting on the library floor hours later. “I thought you were going to finish this? I’m making chili so hurry it up.”
Yes, and I bet that’s some good chili. “I can finish this later.”
Re extra rooms in the bunker: It is completely logical that there would be a huge glass conservatory on the roof for the growing of their exotic herbs and magical plants for spells. Now it would be completely overgrown and creepy. There could be a whole episode about some dangerous gone wild plant that makes Audrey II from Little Shop of Horrors look like an overgrown dandelion. And uhh yeah, there’s a cialis style clawfoot tub up there because somebody in the MoL likes more than a shower (even given the great water pressure).
THE OVERGROWN CONSERVATORY. If spn writers are trolling Sheila, please read this now. This would be an amazing episode.
Wow. I keep getting distracted by Sheila’s Channing Tatum wallpaper. First time I’ve seen it and I’m having a hard time looking away.
Please forgive and indulge me in just a moment more of fantasy re THE OVERGROWN CONSERVATORY.
Back story: Early in the 20th c. the Kansas MoL accepted a transfer from the London chapter of a young amateur botanist whose purpose was to help plan, build, and execute the huge conservatory for the new secret bunker. This member would travel the globe searching out and procuring the rarest of exotic plants, but there was a secret. He was a woman who had disguised herself as a man in order to pursue this vital work with the “slightly misogynistic” MoL on behalf of humanity. This, of course explains the bathtub placed discreetly behind the antique Chinese screen in the corner of the conservatory. She couldn’t very well shower in the MoL shower room, could she? Perhaps she died at the hands/fronds of one of her beloved, but dangerous exotic plants, thus setting up the mystery which our heroes must solve.
Very 12th Night, Shakespeare meets Mulan.
the bunker is sound proof so while dean is on his shift of cleaning duties the building is ” rocking” with his fav music.
as much as i like the telescope the crow’s nest is my one and truly spot.
y’all rock.
the trolls too.
From the Crow’s nest: “Thar she blows. The Darkness breaches Cap’n.”
“All that most maddens and torments; all that stirs up the lees of things; all truth with malice in it; all that cracks the sinews and cakes the brain; all the subtle demonisms of life and thought; all evil,” to the Winchesters, “were visibly personified, and made practically assailable in” The Darkness.
you are awesome!!!!! you just gave me two ideas. one for the season finale, the mother of all battles, the winchesters, heaven and hell against the darkness. second idea, to convince my art teacher and my fellow artists to convey this battle into a big canvas for the final art project. i will be on charge of the figure depicing dean winchester. i am already doing scketches for the term project: the transfiguration moment of J.C. featuring jensen ackles.
Wow! What a project. You must sharepictures of your progress. To be fair I did not give the reference on my quote above. It is Herman Melville’s Moby Dick. The whale embodies all those evils and torments in the unbalanced mind of Captain Ahab. In her reading list this summer Sheila was encouraging me to try reading MD again. I am working up to it. I saw the trailer with Chris Hemsworth for In the Heart of the Sea which is supposedly the true story inspiration for Moby Dick and also a non-fiction book. I may have to cave in and read both before seeing the movie. Having rambled on about all that, I was further inspired by your crow’s nest imagery to make a comparison between the two books and this particular quote seemed almost too perfect.
well, me going back to art projects and writting again is due to sheila and supernatural and all of you. i was too inmerse into taking care of the elders of my family and the nurse studies and the intership.
i am back in business!!!!!
i haven’t read moby dick. i have read all sorts of horrible things about the main character and i refuse to deal with that. sorry.
the quote is truly amazing and i would definitly see myself above the ground and getting the winchesters attention….
with the art project, first i will seize the moment, when the teacher is sharing with the class one of his many supernatural encounters ( he restores paintings and religious icons in old churches and has access to private places that common people are not allow) and ask if he has seen any painting showing the encounter that i will describe to him in a very vivid way , and then present the proyect and persuade everybody to joint it.
difficult task but i am game.
Best of luck to you!
And I also resist reading these psychological dramas where the characters have tumbled into the abyss of madness.
thank you. i asked the teacher today about the scene on the canvas… ” it is going to be adam and eve in paradise, a lo gustav klimt because the press is comming to take pictures… so mr, jensen ackles in all his glory in paradise… i will place flowers you know where. the things i have to do for the sake of art…
***comparison between the book, Moby Dick, and Supernatural.
Sorry!
Moby Dick and SPN. This is my jam. Just sayin’.
I blame Sheila!